[Elsie]

No comment on THIS...?

“Tradition” was identified with what could be proved on the basis of texts.

HMMMmmm...

[HandyDandy]

Please reread the post more carefully and more slowly. When Ratzinger says, “Tradition” was identified with what could be proved on the basis of texts.” He is talking about commonly held beliefs prior to the Bodily Assumption of Mary being defined. He is speaking of old views of tradition, and then, if you read through to the end you will get to his then current definition of “tradition”, i.e. “Ratzinger's belief of “tradition” included “the living process whereby the Holy Spirit introduces us to the fullness of truth and teaches us how to understand what previously we could still not grasp (cf. Jn 16:12-13), then subsequent “remembering” (cf. Jn 16:4, for instance) can come to recognize what it has not caught sight of previously and was already handed down in the original Word.”

This is exact;y why I took offense to Daniel1212 cutting the statement in half. Because there are people like you around who will read it the wrong way.

[daniel1212]

“Tradition” was identified with what could be proved on the basis of texts. HMMMmmm...

And did you read this as meaning anything contrary to the assumption of an assumption facing the problem of critical lack of evidence in the hundreds of years after this alleged event took place, besides what it must rely on ?

And did Ratzinger's resourceful Roman "remembering" rationalization in any way contradict that reality of critical lack?

And how did Ratzinger's recollection rationalization help you to believe and justify Rome's tradition as being the word of God?

And lest you doubt that was Rome says is true is therefore true, did you know (remember) that in RC theology you the unconverted cannot even ascertain what writings are all wholly inspired of God apart from an act of faith in Rome, and thus appeal to the Scriptures are to be as a merely reliable historical source, which hopefully helps the potential convert to ascertain that the church of Rome is what she says it is, and thereby know what writings are of God?

And thus you are to submit to all the judgments of the magisterial stewards of Scripture and authorities on it, versus following itinerant preachers?

Just checking your oromethodoxy.