Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: BipolarBob

>> “Because none of us are sinless, all of us fall short of God’s glory.”

What do sinner and sinless mean? What does “all of us” mean? What is the glory of God?

Has a newborn committed sin? Can a newborn be called a sinner?

If we say that, no, a newborn has not committed sin, then we have to say that all of us does not mean each and every one of us.

The Catholic Church teaches that the newborn does have sin, the inherited sin of Adam, and that baptism frees the baptised from this Original Sin.

And yet before Jesus was even born, Mary calls God her Savior. And this is why the Church teaches that Mary’s conception was special, immaculate, in that God stepped in and “saved” her from Original Sin, so that He would have a pure vessel into which the Holy Spirit could conceive Jesus. She, like the rest of us, needed the action of God to be freed from Original Sin.


47 posted on 08/16/2023 8:11:49 AM PDT by Chicory
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]


To: Chicory
And this is why the Church teaches that Mary’s conception was special, immaculate, in that God stepped in and “saved” her from Original Sin,

Yeah, well "the Church" is wrong. And not the first time if you look at their history. Mary needed a Savior too.

52 posted on 08/16/2023 8:15:51 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I aim to misbehave.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies ]

To: Chicory
Has a newborn committed sin? Can a newborn be called a sinner?

Apparently human sinfulness (not sin itself but the proclivity to sin--"sin nature") is a genetic disease that has been hardwired in our DNA since the fall of man.

A baby may not show symptoms, but the disease is there.

61 posted on 08/16/2023 8:43:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies ]

To: Chicory
And yet before Jesus was even born, Mary calls God her Savior. And this is why the Church teaches that Mary’s conception was special, immaculate, in that God stepped in and “saved” her from Original Sin, so that He would have a pure vessel into which the Holy Spirit could conceive Jesus. She, like the rest of us, needed the action of God to be freed from Original Sin.

Is God her Savior, or is Jesus?

Are God and Jesus the same person?

If the Holy Spirit conceived Jesus, is the Holy Spirit Jesus's father?

Where in the Bible does it say that God stepped in and saved Mary from original sin?

I thought Jesus was the one who saved people from original sin.

1,266 posted on 08/26/2023 7:47:04 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson