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To: metmom
And since he was slandering a whole bunch of former Roman Catholics,

Slandering ?... Precision of language please...
Really now... well, you can stop clutching your pearls...
(Afterall, the title of this thread is.... "The Cult of Mary")

Now, perhaps the gentleman's post was meant to be hyperbole,
and yes, I mght have been wrong not to check if it was meant that way
(Usually here on FR, it's not)
But the 2 statements that were made that were not congruent of Catholicism.
To be Catholic- and to seriously claim to NOT have opened a Bible-
runs counter to the centuries of the Catholic Mass Liturgy.

So yes, I found little truth in those two opposing statements - and couldn't let that pass.
Now it is possible that his Parish didn't have Lectionaries in their pews at that time as well.
But the Church, following the Oral Traditions of Reading Scripture during Worship from the beginning of Christianity,
In the Mass reads aloud 3 scripture passages on Sunday and special Feasts or Solemnities - and 2 readings on week days.

I pretty sure... YOU understand this to be True of the Mass as well... yes I think?

Going to the format level, actually in the Catholic Mass...
we read through about 75% of the entire Bible EVERY 3 years...
And then we start back over again, constantly...

The canard of Catholics don't read the bible is so falsely silly,
the innocent bystander deserves to know the real truth-
That the Church, to this day, has maintained, "has held fast to",
the Oral and written traditions of Scripture being a central part of the Christian Worship liturgy.

So what did you think of my Mona Lisa analogy I wrote to you?


1,076 posted on 08/25/2023 2:18:19 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("I consider the sufferings of this present time are nothing compared with the glory to be revealed")
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To: MurphsLaw; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion
Going to the format level, actually in the Catholic Mass... we read through about 75% of the entire Bible EVERY 3 years...

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Not exactly.....the 71.5% figure presumes the Roman Catholic is going to Mass on Sunday and weekdays (and that is a small number based on surveys)....and that's just the NT. The OT is around 13.5% for the Roman Catholic attending on Sunday and weekday...3.7 for those just on Sunday.

NT SectionPre-Vatican II Missal” Sundays and Major FeastsCurrent Lectionary: Sundays and Major FeastsCurrent Lectionary: Sundays and Weekdays
Gospels 22.4%57.8%89.8%
Acts3.5%16.4%48.9%
Romans15.9%27.0%%52.7%
Pauline Letters (including Romans above)18.1%31.3%56.7%
Deutero-Paulines15.2%37.3%64.7%
Hebrews5.6%27.6%62.0%
Catholic Epistles13.2%24.7%67.6%
Revelation0%9.4%31.9%
NT w/o Gospels11.0%25.4%54.9%
NT Grand Total16.5%40.8%71.5%

https://catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm

https://www.catholic.com/qa/percentage-of-the-bible-in-the-lectionary

1,078 posted on 08/25/2023 3:03:48 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MurphsLaw; metmom
Going to the format level, actually in the Catholic Mass... we read through about 75% of the entire Bible EVERY 3 years... And then we start back over again, constantly... The canard of Catholics don't read the bible is so falsely silly,

No really based on the numbers I posted. And that's having the Scripture read to them.

It's not actual Bible study.

And it wasn't until 1943 that Roman Catholics were actually encouraged to read Scripture.

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Once the printing press was invented, the most commonly printed book was the Bible, but this still did not make Bible-reading a Catholic’s common practice. Up until the mid-twentieth Century, the custom of reading the Bible and interpreting it for oneself was a hallmark of the Protestant churches springing up in Europe after the Reformation. Protestants rejected the authority of the Pope and of the Church and showed it by saying people could read and interpret the Bible for themselves. Catholics meanwhile were discouraged from reading Scripture.

Identifying the reading and interpreting of the Bible as “Protestant” even affected the study of Scripture. Until the twentieth Century, it was only Protestants who actively embraced Scripture study. That changed after 1943 when Pope Pius XII issued the encyclical Divino Afflante Spiritu. This not only allowed Catholics to study Scripture, it encouraged them to do so. And with Catholics studying Scripture and teaching other Catholics about what they were studying, familiarity with Scripture grew..

https://www.usccb.org/offices/new-american-bible/changes-catholic-attitudes-toward-bible-readings

1,079 posted on 08/25/2023 3:12:37 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MurphsLaw; Old Yeller; Mark17; aMorePerfectUnion; Roman_War_Criminal; daniel1212; boatbums; ...

Yes, slandering.

In post 943 where you said to Old Yeller....

“You say you were “raised in the Roman Catholic “Religion”...
But in gonna call bs on that.
While your not as obvious as other “false-flag” I “used to be” Catholic posers on FR...”

You essentially called us liars for telling you our background. It’s not BS nor *false flag*

Yes I was raised as a Roman Catholic, had priests in my family, and know what I saw and heard from my large Catholic family and Catholic co-workers and friends. WNY is very heavily Catholic and it is a safe bet when you meet anyone there that they are Catholic. It’s just about a given. The place is jam packed with Catholic churches.

If you have a problem with what I relate about my experience growing up as a Catholic, your problem is with Catholicism as it exists there, not with me who experienced it.

And I’ve noticed that many of the other former Catholics here on FR, who grew up in other areas of the country, relate much the same experiences.

Courtesy pinging some other former RC’s as this relates to them as well and I know they have related similar experiences even though I never knew any of them before FR. They grew up in different parishes than I.

So, no, not “bs” or ‘”false-flag” I “used to be” Catholic posers on FR...”’


1,124 posted on 08/25/2023 10:45:19 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: MurphsLaw
The opposite is true, that nothing can detract from- or diminish the theological value of scripture and how God has revealed himself through it.

From your Mona Lisa analogy....

The question then arises, they why do you add to it with writings from the early church fathers, the CCC, and *sacred tradition*????

And why do Catholics says Scripture alone is not enough, not adequate that those things need to be added to it?

1,125 posted on 08/25/2023 10:49:59 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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