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To: spirited irish

Evolution: The change in gene frequency in a given population over time.

FACT: You can watch bacteria (reproduce every 20 minutes) change gene frequencies in a short period of time.

Theory Human Evolution: the belief that modern humans evolved from a simpler common ancestor. Good evidence, but can’t be reproduced or observed. So will remain theory.

Species Evolution: Humans do this all the time with Animals. Cows, dogs, horses, chickens, pigs, just about everything wherein breading is controlled we have changed gene frequencies over time. Does anybody think that say a pug dog would have survived in the wild 10k years ago? Yes, by choosing which animals breed you effect which traits are passed, and the traits are in the genome. Therefore humans change gene frequency of creatures around us all of the time.

Evolution is fact, human evolution is theory. Hope this helps people understand the difference and why the politics of it should be less emphasized.

For those who would biblically shun me, the Bible says GOD created man and the Animals, it doesn’t specify the methods.


4 posted on 08/05/2023 5:33:45 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

“For those who would biblically shun me, the Bible says GOD created man and the Animals, it doesn’t specify the methods.”

The method is clear: God “spoke”. They existed immediately.


5 posted on 08/05/2023 5:38:06 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Pete Dovgan

Well said.... But you’ll be hammered by many here.


7 posted on 08/05/2023 6:08:27 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Pete Dovgan

You are referring to micro and macro-evolution. We all agree that micro-evolution (dogs bred to other kinds of dogs, cows to cows, etc.) happens. We do not agree that macro-evolution (dinosaurs evolved to birds, apes evolved to men, etc.) takes place. And Darwinian evolutionist do this all the time: they conflate and equate the known and confirmed (micro-evolution) with the totally unconfirmed and evidence-lacking macro-evolution.

And, yes, like it or not, the Bible does tell us God’s method ... he “spoke” everything into existence. He is the only true “Creator”.


9 posted on 08/05/2023 6:16:12 AM PDT by JohnEBoy (DID)
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To: Pete Dovgan

I guess most people don’t look at the fossil record. A type of brachiopod is formed with certain spines on its shell. In the layer of rock above it, it is gone and replaced by one without spines but with some other sort of articulation. Then. In the next layer of rock above, it is gone and replaced by something with totally different articulation and so forth. Either there is evolution or God chose to create a vast array of different organisms and preserve them in the rock record to confuse us.


11 posted on 08/05/2023 7:01:17 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Pete Dovgan
Species Evolution: Humans do this all the time with Animals. Cows, dogs, horses, chickens, pigs, just about everything wherein breading is controlled we have changed gene frequencies over time. Does anybody think that say a pug dog would have survived in the wild 10k years ago? Yes, by choosing which animals breed you effect which traits are passed, and the traits are in the genome. Therefore humans change gene frequency of creatures around us all of the time.

Evolution or adaptation?

16 posted on 08/07/2023 5:03:11 PM PDT by ealgeone
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