Posted on 07/07/2023 10:09:09 AM PDT by Morgana
Pastor Michael Todd leads Transformation Church. He is known for his wild Easter service, preaching some good old-fashioned Modalism, giving the world perhaps the grossest illustration in church after he snorted and then hocked a loogie full of spit and snot into his hand and rubbed it in another man’s face, (twice) claiming his church had 75k salvations in the last 18 months even though none of them stuck around, had a service where ballet dancers with bare butts danced around the stage, preached in a shirt featuring his wife in in a bathing suit, and claimed that Jesus never reached his potential,
In February of 2020, Todd decided to expend some pent-up energy when he jumped into the crowd during a Sunday night church service, having his congregants catch him and ride the wave through the auditorium as the people cheered and filmed him on their cellphones.
Captioned “The way I’m jumping into the blessings of God ALL YEAR,” the video on his Facebook page is captioned #transformationworship, #energy#rePRESENT, #pastorcrowdsurfing.
Transformations Church bills itself as a “dynamic, multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, non-denominational inner-city ministry in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It embraces the spirit of its founder as it expresses a radical, diversified, progressive, 21st century technological church.”
Then I saw this today.
Now I have to post both because this seems to be a trend in these types of churches.
NO just NO
It embraces the spirit of its founder as it expresses a radical, diversified, progressive, 21st century technological church.”
That explains much.
Not to be confused with a Mylon concert or Petra concert or David and the Giants concert or Fred Hammond concert or Third Day or many others, where the focus is on Jesus, Jesus, and more Jesus. (And the music is great too. LOL)
They’re heretics, plain and simple.
Weird baptism ritual?
Sprinkling, pouring, immersion and now snot.
Each his own.
Many of the musicians you mentioned don’t have songs as much as they have three-minute sermons.
It is Finished by Petra is a good example.
I don't know this church, but I bet they never mention "sin," "satan," or "hell" even one time.
Its a broadway show - with Tony Robbins playing Jesus.
True that. Most of their music can be described as Bible teaching with music. Not really feel good “worship” music (in quotes not because I think it’s fake, but because there’s a whole lot more to worship than just expression). A lot of those bands encouraged believing it and living it.
>> this seems to be a trend in these types of churches.
Please define exactly what you mean by “these types of churches”.
the important question is, how many views did it get?
I wonder if any of the modern “stuff” includes Bible references in their lyrics like Petra and others would do?
(where ballet dancers with bare butts danced around the stage,)
I find this very hard to believe.
Now they may have been skimpily-dressed (these days who knows) but I imagine this is a wild exaggeration by the article writer.
If true, then if course, shocking.
Gotta call a friend who lives near Tulsa. See if he has heard anything about this.
n a recent sermon, he offered a muddled, confused, contradictory, and seeming apology for what God’s word says about homosexuality. While he tearfully does say that he can’t marry gay folk because he needs to submit to the kingdom, he comes across as second-guessing God, lamenting that God didn’t make matters of human sexuality simple or black and white, even though the things he’s speaking of absolutely are.
He may have latched onto coming trends of anti wokeness. Seeing which way the wind blows.
A church with a mosh pit? That’s not a church. That’s a rock concert. 🙄
Man - I was there with those groups. Never forget working Creation 80 and backstage and went in to the trailer to get Mylon and he was alone, on his knees praying before he was to go out on stage. It was real.
Music was good. Devotion was good. Meeting other concertgoers before the concert and many of them current or retired pastors or associate pastors, with everybody else just being average Joe Christians like me for decades and volunteering at church.
Yet when David Huff started the opening guitar licks for Still Rockin', we all knew it was going to be the hardest rock song until Petra got on stage. LOL And all of us gray haired men were foot stopin', head cockin', and yelling in tune the lyrics that we were still sticking to God with a stubborn as a mule attitude. Over and over I asked myself if the devotion was as full throttle now as it was then in my teenage years. And I drove home more committed than I went.
In the 80’s I lived in Southern California (The best place in the world to be back then...bar none.)
Every year Disneyland would have a night of all contemporary Christian music bands playing all over the park. Our church youth group would go every year.
Imagine that...Disney supporting a highlighting Christian music and culture.
For time reference, I graduated HS in ‘84 and went into the USAF in ‘85.
To this day I still listen to my favorites regularly. Daniel Amos being top of my list.
It genuinely makes my eyes tear up when I think of what this country used to be then, and how weak, decrepit, immoral, perverted, hedonistic...I could go on...our country has become.
The sense of loss I feel is so immense. I just don’t think any generation since can grasp what we had.
I believe Petra is touring again this year.
Hey. It beats snake handling.
I’ll buy that answer
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