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To: metmom
If you think that God’s plan for Jesus birth would be thwarted because of the cooperation of a mere mortal human being, you all have a pretty weak and impotent god.

If you think that Jesus would have been conceived in a woman who did not, of her own free will, consent to it, then you worship a rapist.

399 posted on 07/03/2023 9:57:35 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
... then you worship a rapist.

Nice conclusion.


The Potter and the Clay

The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: “Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will let you hear[a] my words.” So I went down to the potter's house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do.

Then the word of the Lord came to me: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. If at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom, that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it, and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I intended to do to it. And if at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build and plant it, 10 and if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will relent of the good that I had intended to do to it. 


439 posted on 07/03/2023 12:10:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SauronOfMordor

So I guess Catholics figure God actually did have sex with Mary and Jesus is not virgin born either then.

Catholics have the most bizarre view on sexuality. Catholics are the ones who came up with that nonsense.


447 posted on 07/03/2023 12:57:42 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!)
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