The Anatomy of a Scoffer

Rapture Ready ^ | 6/17/23 | John Salom

[SaveFerris]

I had a similar experience at a place I worked. Which was also about as you described, percentage-wise.

I went to their monthly “chapel service” every time it came up. Lots of praise and worship. Lots.

Not once, over a period spanning three calendar years did anyone ONCE ever crack open a Bible and read directly from Scripture to those in attendance.

Not ONCE. In all of that time.

[SaveFerris]

yep

[Roman_War_Criminal]

They’re all prisoners of the enemy who need to be freed.

Prayer works.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Noah was crazy, until he wasn’t.

You’ve done your part. My hope & prayer is that when it gets real and life takes a dramatic turn for the deadly folks remember.

[SaveFerris]

Hanging in there as best I can

Tried to call you several days ago

May be possible to try again later this week

[ViLaLuz]

I believe I get what you’re saying. I do believe we’re in a perilous time of many scoffers of the Word and God. They’ll find out how wrong they are eventually. But if one is sincerely seeking Truth and asking questions, they shouldn’t be automatically dismissed as a scoffer. This is definitely a spiritual battle, not one of the flesh.

[EliRoom8]

That is an disputed factoid with meagre significance.

[Big Red Badger]

Yuppers
Like the Sabbath on Saturday or Sunday.
RCC Cult has an Agenda.

[Big Red Badger]

Jerusalem will be the Center of the
Restored Kingdom and that fact is
Without Question!
So Come Lord Jesus

[Cronos]

Actually, that, “Pre-tribulation rapture” is a modernist concept that was not shared by the early Christians - or indeed any Christians before the 1800s.

The Jesus-followers of the 1st century saw the destruction of the temple in 70 AD as:
1. the fulfilment of Jesus’ prophecy in the Olivet discourse
2. the end of Daniel’s visions
3. the realization of the apocalyptic vision of John of Patmos.

This is clear in the difference between the tone of the Book of Revelation, written by John in the period 64 to 67 AD and his tone in the gospel of John written in the period 80 to 90 AD.

Also the Gospel according to John is the only gospel without the prophecy of the destruction of the temple - because it had already happened

[Cronos]

Mutt The reason all the stones were overturned was because the fire in the temple was so intense, the gold melted into the joints between the stones and the Roman soldiers were digging them up to get to them.

Correct, that fulfilled Jesus's prophecy in the Olivet discourse

[Cronos]

actually ducttape - the rabbinical Jews (who we call "Jews" today but are the descendants of the Pharisaic sect of 2nd temple Judaism that was created in 80 AD by Rabbi Yohannan ben Zakkai at the council of Jamnia) -- these rabbinical Jews know that the western wall is the remnant of the FOUNDATION on which the temple was then built - they aren't the walls of the temple itself

the temple built by Herod the great stood there.

Or where do you think the 2nd temple stood?

[Cronos]

Many think and believe that the rapture will take place this year, and just in case anyone hasn't noticed this year is already half over!

I thought the rapture took place in 2011?

or was it 1988?

Or was it 1914?

[Manic_Episode]

Oh you’ll notice this one. Heads up! Soccer ball to the face incoming!

[ducttape45]

That platform was a Roman camp. The Temple of Solomon stood to the south, and down from, that encampment.

Act 21:30-32, "And all the city was moved, and the people ran together: and they took Paul, and drew him out of the temple: and forthwith the doors were shut. And as they went about to kill him, tidings came unto the chief captain of the band, that all Jerusalem was in an uproar. Who immediately took soldiers and centurions, and ran down unto them.

The soldiers ran down from the Roman encampment that the Jews call the Temple Mount.

[ducttape45]

See Post 75

[Big Red Badger]

The Temple is Fascinating...
The Temple Mount is just That as any direction away from it leads Down.
I spent 10 days there in 1997.
.
The three gates of the Temple are called;
The Way
The Truth
The Life.
According to Rabbi Oral tradition.

[Cronos]

Neither Psalms 90 nor Genesis 6 talks of generations -- that is disingenuous of you to state that

Genesis 6:3

6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

-- this very clearly does not imply a generation, rather the lifespan of a man

Psalm 90:10

9 For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told. 10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

Again, this is about the life span of a man - now reduced to 70 to 80 years

your two referrals are not about the length of a generation

In contrast a generation was 40 years - as seen clearly in the 40 years of wandering in the desert for the old generation to die off

Jesus referred to teh 30 AD generation - he says in Matt 23:34-36 You will crucify prophets I send, guilt upon will be on this generation -

[Cronos]

It is interesting how the various non-Catholic western groups have diverged.

At a mass which is the Divine Liturgy and the Eucharist, there are a minimum of two “cracking opening the Bible and reading directly from Scripture to those in attendance”. This is accompanied with singing, worship and the Eucharist.

Some groups diverged to just reading, others to the other extreme and just the praise and worship.

[SaveFerris]

It was a new one on me.

But it was month-after-month for the 21 months or so I was there - which spanned 3 calendar years.

Plus I saw two people, including my boss, who had Obama-like mannerisms, get somewhat physical after I mentioned Scripture.

I say the likely reasons why are axiomatic.