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To: marshmallow; ebb tide

Here’s a question, a serious one: If Francis is the Pope, and of he was elected by a conclave of eligible, validly consecrated bishops, and he says sodomy is OK and two men can marry (each other) - aren’t you obligated to assent and to conform your conscience accordingly?


2 posted on 05/20/2023 6:44:52 PM PDT by Jim Noble (It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government)
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To: Jim Noble

No is the answer.


4 posted on 05/20/2023 6:46:29 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Jim Noble

Here is a link to the discussion at the Vatican website regarding the infallible teachings of the magisterium. It is a complicated subject. The Catholic Faith is not a dictatorship under the whims of a single despot. The Pope just cannot do that. He does a lot of stupid stuff but he cannot do that and have all Cathoics obliged to comply.

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19730705_mysterium-ecclesiae_en.html


7 posted on 05/20/2023 6:51:07 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Jim Noble

IF


9 posted on 05/20/2023 7:15:42 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: Jim Noble
- aren’t you obligated to assent and to conform your conscience accordingly?

Nope. It was just confirm that Bergoglio is a formal heretic, and thus an anti-pope. But he's too sneaky to go that far.

15 posted on 05/20/2023 8:17:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church's “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: Jim Noble

I think ever since Vatican II there is an allowance for sincere dissent. Of course one can also dismiss all of Vatican II if so led by the spirit, by its own definition.


33 posted on 05/21/2023 2:26:27 PM PDT by firebrand
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