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How Will the World Explain the Rapture?
Rev310.net ^ | 4/16/23 | Scott Savell

Posted on 04/19/2023 4:52:54 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: BipolarBob

Let’s go back to your #29 which doesn’t remotely hold water with Scripture.

Several posters here called you out on it - not just me, and you just deflect and distract with your responses.

You don’t like being called out, sorry!
My ‘tone’ makes folks uncomfortable when I call them out on their made up interpretations.

You want intelligent dialogue? Use Scripture as your baseline.


81 posted on 04/19/2023 10:33:55 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: EasySt

It does. One can easily read into Revelations that we’re the ones that bring the beasts into our world. I think, traditionally, the common mindset was that they’d be ‘sent’ to us and we’d have to try and recognize their existence.

What is going on with AI is daring whatever is possible to emerge, regardless if we really understand it or can control it.


82 posted on 04/19/2023 10:51:24 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

alien abduction


83 posted on 04/19/2023 10:52:14 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Could you be a little more specific on what doesn’t hold water? I made three points in that post. Thanks in advance.


84 posted on 04/19/2023 11:05:28 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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To: Manuel OKelley
No one knows when, it would be right now or 20,000 years from now

I'm convinced we are closer to the parousia than ever before. :-)

85 posted on 04/19/2023 11:18:44 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I have long said I want to be standing in a cemetery when He returns. I want to see the dead rise from their graves and leap into the sky. Then I’ll join them.


86 posted on 04/19/2023 11:20:06 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
The story continues after that for 1000 years of bliss.

Maybe not. Revelation 12:5 and 19:15 say that he will rule over the nations with a rod of iron. This has not happened yet. I don’t think he will reign over his bride so who will be ruled? Is Christ involved in law enforcement?
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
It appears that the flesh will be preserved to live in the millennium.
87 posted on 04/19/2023 11:24:30 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Renfrew

1000 years after Jesus returns. Then comes the new heaven and earth.


88 posted on 04/19/2023 11:51:53 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth.)
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To: Seven_0

You are correct that He will rule with an iron fist. Psalm 2:7-9 is the reference here.

It’s not the Bride IMHO.
“Flesh” could be those who survived the Tribulation who later became believers in Him and those from the Jewish surviving remnant that will be preserved for the millennium.

This is my take and YMMV.

For more...

Who will occupy the Millennial Kingdom?

https://www.gotquestions.org/millennial-kingdom.html


89 posted on 04/19/2023 1:38:03 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: gitmo

That’s fascinating imagery in your post.

I wouldn’t mind that scenario either.


90 posted on 04/19/2023 1:39:06 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Definitely a topic a bears discussion, if for no other reason, so that people will know why their loved ones have disappeared. I’m putting a video on my computer desktop so that there is no debate, no misunderstanding, why I’m no longer here.


91 posted on 04/19/2023 1:53:09 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: BipolarBob

I said #29, I meant your #31.
Here you go:

#1 Never does the Bible call it the rapture. It does state it will be sudden and worldwide.

-It uses the word “rapture” in the Latin Bible. We who use the modern English language have many borrowed words from Latin. You can also use “Harpazo” in the Greek if we wish to use that word.

-Refer to Strongs Concordance 726

Original Word: ἁρπάζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: harpazó
Phonetic Spelling: (har-pad’-zo)
Definition: to seize, catch up, snatch away
Usage: I seize, snatch, obtain by robbery.

It describes a type of seizing of a person - a “kidnapping” almost.

#2 The others will be killed at the brightness of His coming. So the only ones left in the world will be Satan and his host of demons.

Are you saying that nobody will occupy as flesh during the 1,000 years between the bounding of Satan at The Second Coming/Sheep & Goats Judgement and the Great White Throne Judgement?

If so, explain these:

-Isaiah 35:8-10
-Isaiah 65:20
-Micah 4:2
-Micah 4:6-7

Plus the penalty for not worshipping the Lord during this time:

Zechariah 14:17

#3 Satan will be here with nobody to tempt for a thousand years. A thousand years to contemplate his judgment. In this thousand years of desolation, he will be bound (by circumstance not physical chains).

He will be bound and unable to tempt anybody for 1,000 years. But there will be plenty of flesh on Earth.
Reference the verses above, especially Isaiah 65:20.

I’m using the Bible to reference my responses.


92 posted on 04/19/2023 2:08:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: ducttape45

👍
Amen brother!


93 posted on 04/19/2023 2:09:52 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
It uses the word “rapture” in the Latin Bible.

Agreed and I corrected that immediately on the next post with the word SECRET that was omitted.

94 posted on 04/19/2023 3:13:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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To: metmom; Safrguns

Yes it does. I think the same so called ‘saviour ‘ who steps out of the shadows and somehow stops the raining down of missiles will declare that ‘he’ has removed the goats. How could he not be the messiah? That could be so convincing that maybe the elect could indeed be deceived, if they were still here.


95 posted on 04/19/2023 3:35:23 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

——>It the Bible says so, then it is so. Everything else is nonsense.

The bible SAYS that the Little Horn Antichrist power comes out of Pagan ROME, and lasts until the second coming of Christ. Saying that he/it shows up in the last 7 years is NONSENSE.

Why do you keep avoiding this important teaching? Oh, yeah, because it proves that the PTR theory is ridiculous (actually Satanic).

The Reformers accused the Papacy of being the Little Horn/Antichrist power. The Papacy SPECIFICALLY came up with FUTURISM (and Preterism), the beginnings of the PTR theory, in order to deflect this criticism....this was part of the COUNTER REFORMATION.

https://www.biblelightinfo.com/antichrist.htm


96 posted on 04/19/2023 3:57:05 PM PDT by Philsworld (Saints are saints and angels are angels, except when they're called saints. )
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To: Philsworld

97 posted on 04/19/2023 5:57:35 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Daniel 7 is crystal clear that the Little Horn/Antichrist comes out of PAGAN ROME and lasts until the second coming of Christ. The Antichrist is Roman. There is only one entity that it could possibly be. Every biblical clue points to it. Every PROTESTANT REFORMER saw it, which you deny by refusing to discuss it. Absolutely backed up by history.

Biblical baseline: The Little Horn/Antichrist comes out of PAGAN ROME. The point is not even debatable, because that’s what Daniel says. Unfortunately for you, that doesn’t support Darby and the PTR.


98 posted on 04/19/2023 6:48:02 PM PDT by Philsworld (Saints are saints and angels are angels, except when they're called saints. )
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To: BipolarBob

Sorry, but this is not the way I read what it says in the Bible.


99 posted on 04/20/2023 4:55:48 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: oldtech

I understand. Do you think the rapture will be secret? Or that every eye will see it? Do you believe 2 Thessalonians 2:8? How will Satan be bound? I believe it will be by circumstance and you believe what? Physical handcuffs or cage?


100 posted on 04/20/2023 6:34:11 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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