How Will the World Explain the Rapture?

The ordinances were for Jews alone as a presaging of the eternal priesthood in Christ

According to Xianity, which means the argument works only with people who already believe in it.

Ever notice how every single traditionally Xian nation thinks it's the "new Israel?" When it comes to holy mother Ireland/Poland/France/Ethiopia/Armenia/Vietnam all that "brotherhood" and "oneness" goes out the window.

Why are you so obsessed with turning Fundamentalist Protestants against Judaism? Do you support the PLO?

There are roughly 16 million Jews who REJECT Jesus as the Messiah, many are openly hostile to even the suggestion. But there are 350k Messianic Jews, who believe in Jesus as the Messiah, although some cling to the Jewish religious traditions, and do not fully enjoy the LIBERTY we have IN CHRIST.

I would point out that these are, properly speaking, Rabbinical Jews i.e. followers of the sect of Rabbinical Judaism

Let me explain:

At the time of Christ there were quite a few sects of the religion of Abraham and Moses:

Samaritans -- I'm going to include them. They followed the 5 books of Moses ONLY and rejected the books of the prophets. They still exist today and their genetic makeup shows them as descendants from the Israelites. Most likely the Jewish despising of them was that they were from the northern kingdom
2nd temple Jewist sects
1. The Sadducees -- the Mosaic books + the prophets and rejecting the Oral Torah of the Pharisees, These were focused on the temple
2. The Pharisees: religious leaders with the Oral Torah -- to explain what this is, take the Mosaic rule "Keep the Sabbath Holy" - but it doesn't elaborate in detail what that means exactly and that's what the Oral Torah of the Pharisees did. This was later elaborated by Rabbis and codified and we see these discussions in the Talmud and in the Halacha. They were around the temple but had rabbis, etc. and were not as directly tied to the temple as the Sadducees
3. Teh Essenes - ascetics who wanted to go bare bones Mosaic law + Prophets. Again, pin point focus on the temple
4. Zealots - Pharisees but pint point focus on the temple
5. Jesus movement Jews -- the Jews who said Jesus was God and that He prophesied the destruction of the temple in the Olivet discourse. They were not focused on the temple, considering that the New Temple was the body of Christ and the New Israel was the expanded Israel - consisting of Jews and Gentiles

Only 2 groups survived the destruction of the temple - the Jesus movement Jews (Christians) and the Pharisees came out of the destruction of 70 AD (and the Zealots to some extent)

The Pharisees changed into Rabbinical Judaism- a new religion not focused on temple sacrifices but todah and not on the temple priests but on Rabbis

So the 16 million Rabbinical Jews reject Jesus as the Messiah just as their spiritual ancestors, the Pharisees did

We Christians are a 2nd temple Jewish sect - the Jesus-movement Jews, followers of "the Way" as written in the book of Acts.

Paul introduces a 3rd Group

This is very incorrect

Firstly - the first gentiles baptised into Christ were baptised by Peter

Secondly, the apostles Thomas, Thaddeus and Bartholomew also preached to and baptised gentiles in India, Parthia and Mesopotamia respectively

Finally - in none of these cases was this a separate group, it's always made clear that this is a continuation of Israel -->

Romans 11 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[b] of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

The Church, the ekklesia of God i.e. the community of God is where there is no Jew, no Gentile. This is the New, expanded Israel

The thing is that the dispensationalist view is of biblical history in vertical relation to God

Christian theology, in maintaining that the God who created and sustains the world is the same God who “so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16), requires both perspectives, the vertical and the horizontal. The glory of God as manifested in biblical history is most fundamental in that this precedes and is presupposed by specifically redemptive history, while the history of salvation is most fundamental in that it involves a deeper and more intimate relation of Creator to creation (culminating in the Incarnation and Passion) than that given in creation as such.

The Dispensationlist view lacks the narrative unity of revelation - as ONE path that the ONE God

The fatal flaw in dispensationalism is the belief in the one thousand years of EARTHLY reign of Christ - this contradicts Jesus' own statements

Jesus' kingdom started in 70 AD with the destruction of Jerusalem

There is no Biblical evidence for seven dispensations from God to men. At most there are two: before and after Jesus’ resurrection.

The Dispensationlist view lacks the narrative unity of revelation - as ONE path that the ONE God

The fatal flaw in dispensationalism is the belief in the one thousand years of EARTHLY reign of Christ - this contradicts Jesus’ own statements

The fatal flaw is that they are FUTURISTS, and as futurists they deny every Protestant Reformer belief and teaching, as does the Catholic Church. Conversely, the Reformers were HISTORICISTS. They clearly identified the Papacy as the Antichrist power, because that’s what prophecy and history clearly show. Those who cannot identify the Antichrist power will more than likely be fooled into taking the Mark of the Beast, if they are alive at that time. Ironically enough, it was the Papacy that came up with Futurism and Preterism, in an attempt to deflect criticism by the Reformers, that the Papacy was the Antichrist power. In fact, in the 1500’s, the Catholic church strictly forbade anyone from publishing a book on the Antichrist or preaching on the same. After copies of the bible became more available, those reading prophecy clearly saw the Papacy as the Antichrist power. Not a doubt in their minds. Many were tortured and murdered because of it. The Catholic church was clearly responsible for it.

The Antichrist power comes out of Pagan ROME, and lasts until the second coming of Christ. That is absolutely clear from bible prophecy. Dispensationalists deny it and therefore will never be able to see the truth.

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