Really, IS there?
Posted on 03/16/2023 5:51:01 PM PDT by marshmallow
The pope's latest scandalous comments contradict the teachings of the Church Fathers on the existence of Hell.
VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) — In an interview to mark his 10-year anniversary, Pope Francis appeared to deny the existence of Hell, saying that “is not a place” but is instead simply “a state of the heart” and “a posture towards life.”
The pontiff’s comments formed part of a lengthy conversation conducted by Argentinian news site Perfil, one of a number of recent interviews the Pope granted journalists to mark his decade upon the papal throne. Touching on a number of topics he discussed with other reporters, Francis also spoke about his philosophical and theological thought, along with aspects relating to global politics.
As part of the in-depth discussion, Francis was asked, “What is your own interpretation of Hell and paradise, and what happens to people who go to Hell, and what happens to those who go to paradise?”
Giving a trademark lengthy, convoluted, and somewhat evasive answer, Francis appeared to deny the existence of Hell as an actual place. “Hell is not a place,” he said. “If one goes to attend the Last Judgment, and sees the faces of those who go to Hell, one gets scared. If you read Dante, you get scared. But these are media representations.”
Expanding on his answer, Francis described Hell simply as “a state” — a description which appeared to refer to a state of mind. “Hell is a state, there are people who live in Hell continuously.”
He clarified that he was not referring to suffering generally, but to “those who make a world of bad or sick self-referentiality, and end up living in Hell.”
Hell is a state, it is a state of the heart, of the soul, of a posture towards life.......
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tenants = people who rent a place in which to reside
tenets = principles of a belief or a religion
This is not a moral equivalence situation. Protestant/Evangelical "leaders" can claim X number of followers, but not the leadership over a billion adherents internationally like the Vatican. Nor do the "reformed" folks maintain a magisterium and issue edicts, nor claim to be the only source of true interpretation, applicable to all. They typically don't claim to be the only true church as does the RCC; instead placing ultimate responsibility for knowing God, following Jesus' teachings, prayer, revelation, repentance and informed belief on the individual.
Once you throw out marriage being sanctified only between one man and one woman, the rest is child's play.
There is also ten ants.
Christ came to set the sinners free. Repentance and baptism are the needed relief.
Hi, hon! Happy St. Patrick’s day!
Show me point blank the black lettering of scriptures that support your view...in context! I’d say much of the combined weight of Christian orthodox doctrin negates you view>
Even CS Lewis called Hell, the final tourniquet that God provides a soul that will not let God do anything else for it.(though I think he conflated both hell and the final lake of fire). Lewis believed in differing afterlives for sinners and saints. You think you can go up against someone like him? I don’t think so! Your Armstrongist World Wide Church of God doctrine can burn in the blazes!
This is a very powerful and life-changing prayer to rid oneself and one's family of the multigenerational curses of Masonry, when taken seriously:
Really, IS there?
My first thought: "And what else is new?"
Yes. There are some.
...the one true faith that gave you the bible
I expected to see you in this thread -- and "Lo!" There you are saying ...
To you, as well, Merlin Hon.
Peter was never a bishop of Rome though.
I’m an active member of Christ’s church.
C&MA denomination
That is Daniel 12:12 as in "Blessed is he that waiteth," for one that is in "need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise." (Hebrews 10:36)
I suppose the Vatican is also just “a state of mind”.
Here is the basic position of my understanding of the nature of man and what happens to him at death.
I also believe in the Resurrection, so I don’t view death to be all that tragic in the overall scheme of things.
http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/books/qod/q41.htm
If you go down the page a bit, there is more detail on my church’s understanding of issues around death, which may add supplementary information to your main question.
http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/books/qod/
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