Posted on 02/20/2023 11:26:31 AM PST by ebb tide
Two Catholics in Colorado have said they were denied Communion for wearing rainbow masks in support of a lesbian church worker recently fired in the Archdiocese of Denver.
In January, Maggie Barton was terminated as a teacher at All Souls Catholic School over her same-gender relationship. Then, this month, to protest the discrimination, four Catholic women—Susan Doty, Sally Odenheimer, Jill Moore, and Cindy Grubenhoff—attended Mass at the parish with which the school is affiliated wearing rainbow masks and other Pride apparel. According to The Denver Post:
“Susan Doty lined up Saturday to receive Holy Communion much as she’s done her entire life. . .
“But, she said, the priest took one look at her rainbow-colored face mask and shook his head, denying her Communion, and motioned for her to move along.
“‘I felt demeaned, and I said to him, “This isn’t right,” and then I moved away feeling so sad and kind of unbelieving,’ Doty said in an interview Monday. ‘I went back to my pew and wanted to cry, but I tried to hold it in.'” . . .
“‘We were intent on not being disruptive at all, but to be a witness to those who support the teacher,’ Doty said.”
Along with Doty, Moore was denied the Eucharist and the priest would not give a blessing to Odenheimer. Grubenhoff chose not to receive Communion because, the Post reported, as the mother of “one nonbinary transgender child and another queer child. . .she could no longer bring herself to receive Holy Communion at an institution that opposes her children.” She commented:
“‘It’s hard not to conclude that the only reason they were denied is because they had a face mask on with a rainbow on it. . .Where does that end? Does that mean that anyone wearing a rainbow of any kind is going to be denied Communion? Does a little girl wearing a rainbow unicorn sweatshirt get denied because she’s wearing the mark of LGBTQ supporters? It’s a slippery slope and a scary place to be.'”
The Archdiocese of Denver refused to comment on the matter with a spokeswoman, Kelly Clark, saying on that Mass is “not a time to seemingly make a statement” or have “the intent of provoking a response.” Clark encouraged “anyone who feels they were wrongly denied Communion to speak to the pastor of the church.”
Despite experiencing pastoral harm, Susan Doty and others remain committed to the church and its reform. The Post reported:
“Doty — who has a master’s degree in theology, a doctorate in scripture and taught at Regis University — said she will remain a practicing Catholic. However, she did feel compelled to stop giving her money to an Archdiocese she believes discriminates against gay people. Her late brother was gay, Doty said, so she thinks of him as she stands in solidarity with the LGBTQ community.
“‘I love my church,’ Doty said. ‘We’re supposed to be seeking to enlarge the space in our tent like Pope Francis said. It’s not easy, but I won’t give up because there’s still hope.'”
—Robert Shine (he/him), New Ways Ministry, February 20, 2023
Part of the liberal “Rules for thee, not for me” crowd.
Ping
““Doty — who has a master’s degree in theology, a doctorate in scripture and taught at Regis University — said she will remain a practicing Catholic. However, she did feel compelled to stop giving her money to an Archdiocese she believes discriminates against gay people. Her late brother was gay, Doty said, so she thinks of him as she stands in solidarity with the LGBTQ community.”
All the worldly education and yet she doe snot believe in the inerrant word of G-D. His word is very clear and supported by numerous scriptures, sins of the flesh are condemned unequivocally. This is not a matter of burning gays at the stake, it is a matter of accountability to His word. They can sin as they like, this is about using the church to advocate for those sins.
And still doesn't get it ...
she could no longer bring herself to receive Holy Communion at an institution that opposes her [”transgender and non-binary”] children
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She’s got it bass ackwards. She’s the one who is rebelling and opposes her own children as God created them. She is corrupting and destroying her own children.
Bringing Jesus down, putting him on the cross every day while drinking his blood and eating his flesh is non-biblical and sick
If the Theology of the Catholic church is against homosexuality, then these priests did the right thing according to their theology.
“‘I felt demeaned, and I said to him, “This isn’t right,” and then I moved away feeling so sad and kind of unbelieving,’ Doty said in an interview Monday. ‘I went back to my pew and wanted to cry, but I tried to hold it in.’” . . .
A different character and tragedy but this seems the most appropriate response,
“One must have a heart of stone to read the death of Little Nell without laughing.” attr to Oscar Wilde.
The soulless eyes on them. That womyn or the left, they’re all over the place.
How was your Black Mass yesterday?
Yes, thank God for this priest.
“Unbelieving,” you got that part correct, doty.
St. Padre Pio used to roll his eyes at the old women in his parish.
While ebb tide might be closer to the mark, I will try a little more diplomatic approach:
Please explain John 6:48-58 specifically in light of John 6:52-53.
If the Eucharist isn’t real, why did Jesus double-down on what he said?
Are you calling Jesus a liar?
Are you suggesting that no-one who lived after the resurrection and ascension can be saved?
If so, please explain Mathew 16:18. Are you again calling Jesus a liar?
Not sure why you bring this into it. The discussion is on sins of the flesh and the church’s response, all denominations should be able to agree on this.
Funny how Catholics will shout down Sola Scriptura against protestants but quickly invoke it for the Catholic Church authority.
Please go back and read the post to which I replied. I think it was a direct slam on the Catholic Mass, and that I cannot tolerate.
Funny how Protestants love to stand on Sola Scriptura until the literal word becomes inconvenient to their chosen belief. Then they make all kinds of interpretive excuses.
I love how these lunatics pretend to be surprised when the Church upholds the theology it has been teaching for the past two thousand years, which they know they are blatantly defying. As if they are the ones practicing long-established moral law and it is the Church that has made a sudden about-face that is throwing them for a loop.
If you don’t like what the Church teaches, get out! Or if you wish to remain, prayerfully consider the teachings and live accordingly. Those are your options.
Sola Scriptura is not a literal word issue, it is a reliance on scripture specifically issue, it can be literal, figurative, allegory, parable etc.
Adding literal as you did moves the goalposts. If the post above was a dig at Mass, well that is a different issue. My point was only that if you are going to rely on scripture as a sole authority then you should always do so. Catholicism constantly overwrites scriptures’ intent with man made tradition.
She wants to make the narrow path wider. Um, go left lady, that path is wide.
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