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Pope Francis says homosexuality is ‘not a crime’ in interview with the Associated Press
LifeSite News ^ | January 25, 2023 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 01/25/2023 10:08:30 AM PST by ebb tide

Pope Francis says homosexuality is ‘not a crime’ in interview with the Associated Press

Pope Francis appears to contradict the teaching of saints and Church Fathers in his latest comments regarding homosexuality.

ANALYSIS

VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) — In a new interview conducted with the Associated Press, Pope Francis has once again issued brief, confusing comments on the issue of homosexuality, which seem to firmly contradict the Catholic Church’s teaching through the centuries.

“Being homosexual is not a crime,” the Pontiff said, “but it’s a sin.”

He made the remarks in a sit down interview he gave to the Associated Press (AP) on Tuesday, which was published just before the weekly general audience on Wednesday, January 25.

The AP wrote that Francis acknowledged some Catholic bishops “support laws that criminalize homosexuality or discriminate against the LGBTQ community,” but the Pope reportedly styled such positions as stemming from cultural backgrounds.

“Bishops in particular need to undergo a process of change to recognize the dignity of everyone,” the AP wrote, paraphrasing Francis’ comments. 

“These bishops have to have a process of conversion,” Francis declared, calling for “tenderness, please, as God has for each one of us.”

Going further, the 86-year-old Pope called any laws which criminalize homosexuality “unjust,” adding that the Catholic Church must be involved in ending such laws. “It must do this. It must do this,” he stated.

“Being homosexual is not a crime,” Francis stated, before continuing: “It’s not a crime. Yes, but it’s a sin. Fine, but first let’s distinguish between a sin and a crime.”

Immediately following this, Francis added that “it’s also a sin to lack charity with one another.”

Expanding on his comments on LGBT-identifying individuals, Francis declared that “we are all children of God, and God loves us as we are and for the strength that each of us fights for our dignity.”

Francis’ comments were perhaps predictably praised by notorious LGBT advocate Father James Martin S.J., who called the interview “An immense step forward.”

His opinion was not universally shared, however. In a statement provided to LifeSite, a Dominican theologian commented that “while not all sins should be made into crimes, Christian nations have generally treated homosexual activity as something harmful to society, which therefore needed to be declared illegal.”

“Recent experience shows the wisdom of this, since the repeal of laws against such activity has led everywhere to a general confusion and decline of sexual morality, and even to the scarcely credible situation of people being uncertain about the nature of men and women,” the theologian added.

CDF rules that ‘dignity’ demands respect for ‘order of [man’s] nature’

However, the Holy Father’s statements – while brief in the AP’s report – come into conflict with certain key points of Catholic teaching. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’s 1975 document, Persona Humana, reads: “There can be no true promotion of man’s dignity unless the essential order of his nature is respected.”

Under Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in 1986, the CDF then issued a document instructing bishops on the pastoral care of homosexual persons. The CDF admonished bishops to ensure they, and any “pastoral programme” in the diocese, are “clearly stating that homosexual activity is immoral.”

READ: Belgian bishop claims Pope Francis approves of blessing ceremony for homosexual couples

Such an authentic pastoral approach would “assist homosexual persons at all levels of the spiritual life: through the sacraments, and in particular through the frequent and sincere use of the sacrament of Reconciliation, through prayer, witness, counsel and individual care,” stated the CDF.

The instruction added:

But we wish to make it clear that departure from the Church’s teaching, or silence about it, in an effort to provide pastoral care is neither caring nor pastoral. Only what is true can ultimately be pastoral. The neglect of the Church’s position prevents homosexual men and women from receiving the care they need and deserve.

Therefore special concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not.

Saints and Fathers called for physical punishment for homosexuality

The saints and Fathers of the Church are also equally explicit in their call for public action to be taken against acts of homosexuality, no matter whether the acts themselves were private.

The saints’ writings, though often misquoted by modern society, do not call for punishment for the mere temptation of homosexuality which one might experience, but rather for homosexual actions. This forms the basis for what the CDF wrote in 1986: namely, that a homosexual inclination is not a sin in itself, but is nevertheless “a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder.”

READ: Pope Francis is encouraging dissident bishops to spread error and sinful teaching

In his Summa Theologiae, St. Thomas Aquinas writes that acts of homosexuality are among the most weighty, and thus the worst kind of all the sins of lust. Styling it the “unnatural vice,” St. Thomas writes:

Therefore, since by the unnatural vices man transgresses that which has been determined by nature with regard to the use of venereal actions, it follows that in this matter this sin is gravest of all.

The saint adds that homosexual acts are a violation of natural reason, while other immoral, sexual actions “imply a transgression merely of that which is determined by right reason.”

Aquinas drew from St. Augustine’s “Confessions,” (Bk. 3, Ch. 8), highlighting that through Augustine the Church had defended the state’s right to punish homosexual acts. Aquinas quotes St. Augustine thus:

Those foul offenses that are against nature should be everywhere and at all times detested and punished, such as were those of the people of Sodom, which should all nations commit, they should all stand guilty of the same crime, by the law of God which hath not so made men that they should so abuse one another. For even that very intercourse which should be between God and us is violated, when that same nature, of which He is the Author, is polluted by the perversity of lust.

So also did St. Peter Damian, in his Liber Gomorrhianus addressed to Pope Leo IX, advocate for public punishment for acts of homosexuality. He wrote that, regarding clerics, any monk who practices such acts “should be removed in all ways from his office.”Alessia Nobile, a ‘transgender woman’ meeting Pope Francis, June 22, 2022.

The saint’s forthright text continues: 

Just as Saint Basil establishes that those who incur sins… should be subjected not only to a hard penance but a public one, and Pope Siricius prohibits penitents from entering clerical orders, one can clearly deduce that he who corrupts himself with a man through the ignominious squalor of a filthy union does not deserve to exercise ecclesiastical functions, since those who were formerly given to vices… become unfit to administer the Sacraments.

READ: Priest: Pope Francis’s promotion of homosexual civil unions a ‘flagrant betrayal’

St. Peter Damian himself drew from the Early Church Father St. Basil of Caesarea, who also outlined retributions for homosexual acts. St. Basil stipulated that any cleric or monk who abused

adolescents or children or is caught kissing or committing some turpitude, let him be whipped in public, deprived of his crown [the tonsure] and, after having his head shaved, let his face be covered with spittle; and bound in iron chains, condemned to six months in prison, reduced to eating rye bread once a day in the evening three times per week. After these six months living in a separate cell under the custody of a wise elder with great spiritual experience, let him be subjected to prayers, vigils and manual work, always under the guard of two spiritual brothers, without being allowed to have any relationship… with young people.

Another Early Church Father and contemporary of St. Basil, St. John Chrysostom, echoed this call for some earthly punishment for such actions. In his commentary on St. Paul’s Epistle to the Romans, St. John writes about homosexuals:

So, I say to you that they are even worse than murderers, and that it would be better to die than to live in such dishonor. A murderer only separates the soul from the body, whereas these destroy the soul inside the body.

In his first letter to the Corinthians, St. Paul states that homosexual actions are sinful, explaining that “neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers” will “inherit the kingdom of God,” but rather, according to his letter to the Romans, those who practice homosexuality will receive “in their own persons the due penalty for their error.”



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To: ebb tide

The Jesuit order has devolved into an agnostic homosexual cabal. Homosexuals will always do what homosexuals have always done. The next Pope either disbands the Jesuit rder, eliminates mandatory celibacy for priests or the rot and molestations within the Church will continue.


21 posted on 01/25/2023 11:09:30 AM PST by allendale
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To: ebb tide

Hey Frankie, you stupid vile, heretical piece of crap look this up: Leviticus 18;22.

For the love of God why hasn’t this drooling Marxist rat in
a popes miter not been bound, gagged and thrown into the Tiber?


22 posted on 01/25/2023 11:21:10 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: ebb tide

Just because it’s legal doesn’t make it right.

God still calls it a sin.


23 posted on 01/25/2023 11:21:33 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: OHPatriot

ANTI pope. NOT the Pope.


24 posted on 01/25/2023 11:32:28 AM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: ebb tide

Dear Francis, “A homosexual” is not anything at all. A sin IS a crime against God. So is inventing an identity in order to justify sin.


25 posted on 01/25/2023 11:38:15 AM PST by nagant
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To: ebb tide

Yo Pope, you are not in the legal system so crime is not your thing. SIN is you AHOLE.


26 posted on 01/25/2023 12:37:54 PM PST by dblshot
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To: ebb tide
“Being homosexual is not a crime,” the Pontiff said, “but it’s a sin.

My understanding of this as a Catholic, is that the homosexual is not considered "sinful"; but, the homosexual act IS considered sinful. Am I wrong?

27 posted on 01/25/2023 2:23:37 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

That is my understanding.


28 posted on 01/25/2023 2:24:17 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ebb tide

Taylor Marshall on the latest ramblings from Bergoglio the Destroyer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7t36Oc6nFQ


29 posted on 01/25/2023 4:20:45 PM PST by NKP_Vet (.)
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To: ebb tide
Someday this Pope is going to make a pronouncement that's consistent with what the nuns taught me during my 10 years of Catholic school during the 60s.
30 posted on 01/25/2023 7:18:28 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I don't know about that. He's on a roll now that Pope Benedict has died:


31 posted on 01/25/2023 7:53:26 PM PST by ebb tide
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Most notably, however, Ploumen started the "She Decides" campaign, an initiative of about 50 countries, organizations and foundations to finance global family planning initiatives after a U.S. halt to such programs left NGOs worldwide with a large funding gap.[11] Within six months the organization received pledges worth US$300 million.[12] As minister, she pledged 10 million euro to counter the Mexico City policy.[13]
32 posted on 01/25/2023 7:58:44 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

NOT Catholic-—BUT I DO NOT TRUST this POPE.


33 posted on 04/15/2024 3:09:37 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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