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St. Peter’s Basilica hosts debate on papal primacy with Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant theologians
LifeSite News ^ | November 22, 2022 | Louis Knuffke

Posted on 12/11/2022 4:49:07 PM PST by ebb tide

St. Peter’s Basilica hosts debate on papal primacy with Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant theologians

The November 22 debate, entitled 'On this rock I will build my Church,' is part of the Vatican Lectio Petri project.

VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) — Today St. Peter’s Basilica will host a public debate between a Catholic, an Orthodox, and a Protestant theologian on the primacy of Peter.

The November 22 debate, entitled “On this rock I will build my Church,” is part of the Vatican Lectio Petri project. This is a series of four meetings, sponsored by St. Peter’s Basilica, the Courtyard of the Gentiles, and the Fratelli tutti Foundation. According to the Vatican’s announcement, the project is “dedicated to the life and ministry of the saint in theology, history, arts and culture.” The theologians to take part in the debate are Professor Dimitrios Keramidas, the Orthodox theologian; Professor Paolo Ricca, the Protestant theologian; and Professor Don Dario Vitali, the Catholic theologian.

Cardinal Mauro Gambetti, Archpriest of the Basilica of St. Peter’s, will introduce the debate. In anticipation of the event, Gambetti said: “We would like to understand, how to understand today, the primacy of the last place experienced by the Apostle and how the maternal trait contained in Jesus’ mandate to Peter, which the first of the Apostles was able to embody, can be expressed.”

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, the president emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Culture, remarked on the significance of the debate being held at St. Peter’s Basilica.

“This second Lectio Petri, is undoubtedly particularly evocative and significant because, for the first time, St. Peter’s Basilica – a place that symbolizes in an, I would say, absolute way the Primacy of Peter – will host a representative of Protestantism and one of Orthodoxy, in dialogue with each other and with a Catholic theologian on a topic that for the three confessions might seem divisive,” he said.

“On the contrary, I am convinced that the meeting and confrontation between the protagonists of the evening will be extremely enriching and stimulating: it is certainly a virtuous example of ecumenical dialogue, which also well represents the spirit of the ‘Courtyard of the Gentiles.’”

Ravasi founded the Courtyard of the Gentiles foundation within the Vatican Dicastery for Culture and Education to promote “dialogue between believers and nonbelievers through events, debates, and research.” Its co-sponsor of the Lectio Petri, the Fratelli tutti Foundation, was founded by Pope Francis in December 2021.

The Courtyard of the Gentiles has been known for scandalous “ecumenical” events in the past. In 2019, video footage surfaced showing Ravasi participating in a procession honoring the infamous Pachamama, the Inca fertility goddess, and Tata Inti, Father Sun, in the town of San Marcos Sierras in the Cordoba province of Argentina.

The ceremony, in which a pagan shaman invoked the Pachamama in a prayer, was part of an interreligious “ecumenical” event hosted by the Courtyard of the Gentiles. A spokesman for the cardinal told LifeSiteNews that the ceremony was not intended to be religious. Nevertheless, the shaman who led the ritual clearly presented it as religious in nature.

READ: Video of Vatican cardinal at Pachamama, ‘Father Sun’ ceremony surfaces

Gambetti made headlines in 2021 when, as Archpriest of St. Peter’s Basilica, he oversaw the implementation of restrictions on the celebration of Masses offered privately or according to the Missal of 1962, and restricted the use of Latin at the basilica’s public Masses. Despite these restrictions, each year the Summorum Pontificum – now “Ad Petri Sedem” – Pilgrimage in celebration of Pope Benedict XVI’s motu proprio widening access to the Latin Mass have continued at St. Peter’s Basilica, this year drawing over a thousand pilgrims from around the world.

Gambetti made headlines in 2021 when, as Archpriest of St. Peter’s Basilica, he oversaw the implementation of restrictions on the celebration of Masses offered privately or according to the Missal of 1962, and restricted the use of Latin at the basilica’s public Masses. Despite these restrictions, each year the Summorum Pontificum – now “Ad Petri Sedem” – Pilgrimage in celebration of Pope Benedict XVI’s motu proprio widening access to the Latin Mass have continued at St. Peter’s Basilica, this year drawing over a thousand pilgrims from around the world.

The “values” of the Fratelli tutti Foundation – the other sponsor of the Lectio Petri project –  have been likened by LifeSiteNews correspondent Jeanne Smits to the secular ideology underpinning the French Revolution. After listing the Foundation’s objectives, Smits wrote:

References to God, the Holy Trinity, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and His Beloved Mother are totally absent from this catalogue of politically correct ‘values,’ among which environmentalist concerns and ‘fraternity between believers and non-believers’ are, of course, paramount. For French observers, the mention of ‘liberty, equality, and fraternity’ in objective VI, together with a nod to ‘fraternal humanism,’ has obvious Masonic overtones.

READ: Pope Francis’ new foundation appears to have more in common with French Revolution than with Catholicism 

“Making Reason for the Hope that is in Us” is the title for the third session of the Lectio Petri project. The January 17, 2023, session will be dedicated to considering the figure of St. Peter in history and culture. Ravasi will comment on the two Letters of Peter and several passages from Pliny’s Letter, one of the earliest Roman sources depicting the life of the early Christians. Professor Giuliano Amato, president of the Courtyard of the Gentiles Foundation, will conclude the meeting with a reflection on the relationship between faith and society.

The last Lectio Petri session, entitled “Quo vadis,” will take place March 7, 2023, and will examine the figure of St. Peter in the arts, literature, and music.


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Bergorlio is doing his darndest to diminish the primacy of Peter and to hand over the keys
1 posted on 12/11/2022 4:49:07 PM PST by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 12/11/2022 4:50:12 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The fact that he’s even holding talks to establish primacy is a fulfillment of prophecy.


3 posted on 12/11/2022 4:54:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: ebb tide

Hopefully all three theologians will conclude with a joint statement agreeing to ignore anything Bergoglio does or says.


4 posted on 12/11/2022 4:58:03 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: ebb tide

Getting rid of Vatican I?


5 posted on 12/11/2022 5:49:52 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Jonty30

Which one? Thanks


6 posted on 12/11/2022 5:51:57 PM PST by STJPII ( )
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To: STJPII

Just to repeat myself, this is not about Roman Catholics themselves. They are as saved as anybody else. It is just about the institution, which is a worldly power.

https://www.worldslastchance.com/end-time-prophecy/the-beast-from-the-sea-roman-catholic-church-in-prophecy.html


7 posted on 12/11/2022 6:07:06 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: ebb tide

The only thing I have to say about Francis is “Sede Vacante”.

CC


8 posted on 12/11/2022 6:17:32 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Jonty30
Wow! You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel by linking that garbage.

Do agree with your website that Jesus Christ was not divine?

"When we affirm this fact, we are stating that he (Jesus Christ) had a single nature, which was 100% human".

9 posted on 12/11/2022 8:12:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I was answering the question in regards to the Catholic Church being the First Beast of Revelations. I was not dealing with the Messiah.

This is not an attack upon any religious believer. I’ve already said that I think devout Catholics are Christians. Their institution, unforntunately, no longer represents them but is a world power. It has fallen and gone corrupt.

The answer in regards to the Christ can be answered in Isaiah 9:6.

He is God.


10 posted on 12/11/2022 8:18:35 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: Jonty30
He is God.

Than why are you sourcing a hokey website that denies Christ's divinity.

11 posted on 12/11/2022 8:30:03 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I was answering a very specific question about the Roman Catholic church’s role in the last days. Would you like me to find a link that still affirms the Christ?

It will not chance what the RC church is doing.


12 posted on 12/11/2022 8:33:08 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: Jonty30

No. What I would like you to do is stop dumpster diving for trash that you know is not true just to attack the Catholic Church.


13 posted on 12/11/2022 8:37:38 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

If you have a problem with me stating that the RC church is the First Beast of Revelations, you should take it up John the Apostle, since he wrote the book. You may also have to have a word with Jesus, since he told John what role the RC church would play in the last days.

God does not adjust prophecy because you’re offended by it.


14 posted on 12/11/2022 8:41:47 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: Jonty30

I have a problem with you posting links to trash websites that deny Jesus Christ’s divinity.

It destroys your credibility to your claim to be a “christian”.


15 posted on 12/11/2022 8:47:41 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I am also not simply attacking the RC church for the sake of it. All the Biblical clues in Revelations point to the institution as the First Beast.

https://www.freebibleanswers.com/catholicism/is-the-roman-catholic-church-the-1st-beast-of-revelation/#Is%20the%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church%20the%201st%20Beast%20of%20Revelation?


16 posted on 12/11/2022 8:49:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: ebb tide

That’s fine.
I posted the same answer from a site that testifies that Christ is God, if that makes you feel better.

Nobody being offended is going to change anything. Be offended, if you wish.

https://www.freebibleanswers.com/catholicism/is-the-roman-catholic-church-the-1st-beast-of-revelation/#Is%20the%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church%20the%201st%20Beast%20of%20Revelation?


17 posted on 12/11/2022 8:52:48 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: Jonty30

Do you deny posting a link to a website that denies the divinity of Christ?

How are you going to expect anybody to give you credibilty?

I’m done with your links and so should all Christians.


18 posted on 12/11/2022 8:55:15 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Jonty30

Sorry, I’m not clicking on anymore of your dumpster diving links.


19 posted on 12/11/2022 8:57:10 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I didn’t look at the rest of the site. I was only answering the very specific question about the RC church being the First Beast of Revelations.

Then, to deal with your concern about how that particular site dealt with the Christ, I went to a different site that still identified the RC church as the First Beast, but also affirmed the Christ as God.

Prophecy will happen in the way the Bible says it will, whether or not it offends you.


20 posted on 12/11/2022 8:58:18 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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