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Is America at the End of the Road?
Jonathan Brentner ^ | 11/15/22 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 12/05/2022 7:17:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: patriot torch

I think we’re witnessing a good case of projection.


541 posted on 12/11/2022 9:38:08 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld

Well, Jesus himself pointed all of us toward the truth, and away from lies.   (He referred to himself as "the truth" (John 14:6), and to the devil as "the father of lies" (John 8:44).)

     


The Truth


The Father of Lies

I believe we would all do well to seek the truth, and to shun the lies.

(With that, I have to say goodnight.)

542 posted on 12/11/2022 9:38:32 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: SouthernClaire

Hah! Yes indeed.

He could serve on the Jan 6 panel with his track record. Right next to lizzy Cheney.

Project much Phil?


543 posted on 12/11/2022 9:40:13 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: SouthernClaire; patriot torch; MHGinTN

——>Did EGW visit Jupiter or not, Phil?

No.

And that’s another example of certain groups (PTR, OSAS/OJAJ, etc...) lying and spreading disinformation. They are bearing false witness. Willful, unrepentant liars will not be in heaven. Easy enough to look up the truth, but evidently ignorant members of these groups can’t, or won’t. Spreading lies is a sin.

https://whiteestate.org/about/issues1/mistaken/writings-falsely-attributed/inhabited-planets-our-solar-system/

Contrary to some reports, Ellen White did not identify by name any of the “worlds” that she was shown in VISION. Joseph Bates, a retired sea captain with a special interest in astronomy, was present during at least one of these VISIONS, and he is reported to have identified the planets Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus as being among those described. Some have mistakenly linked Elder Bates’ remarks to Ellen White’s description of a “place” inhabited by “noble” and “majestic” beings. In Ellen White’s own account of her vision, however, she says only that she was taken to “A PLACE” that was bright and glorious” (emphasis supplied). She does not identify “the place” as Jupiter, Saturn, or any other planet in our solar system. Here is her description: “The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely. They bore the express image of Jesus, and their countenances beamed with holy joy, expressive of the freedom and happiness of the place.” Early Writings, pp. 39, 40.


544 posted on 12/11/2022 9:42:42 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld; MHGinTN

Special ... “visions.”

I’d run if I were you. Fast as I could and far as I could from the SDA. Like, right now.

(MHG, post 544.)


545 posted on 12/11/2022 9:51:47 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld

Romans 5:

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.


546 posted on 12/11/2022 9:54:14 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: Philsworld

——>Did EGW visit Jupiter or not, Phil?

No.


Crash landed with an alien force?

E.T.?


547 posted on 12/11/2022 9:56:49 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: Songcraft; SouthernClaire

3 lies exposed from EGW haters (they also hate God’s law and SDA’s). Do they repent and admit their sin? NO, THEY DO NOT.


548 posted on 12/11/2022 9:59:21 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Yer funny, Jupe. Why don’t you repent of your sin of lying about people? Yours are the only lies I’ve seen posted.


549 posted on 12/11/2022 10:01:51 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

3/3 lies exposed. Those groups just keep on lying, digging their own graves. That’s just ignant.


550 posted on 12/11/2022 10:07:00 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

“3/3 lies exposed.”

You need to repent of your lying about others. But you won’t do that because you think you’re lying is ok. Sad thing, Jupe.


551 posted on 12/11/2022 10:08:56 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

3 lies posted, then shot down with the truth. That’s got to sting.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!


552 posted on 12/11/2022 10:15:17 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Since you seem to be so gullible as to believe the Jupiter or wherever story, what Christian value does it hold in your book?


553 posted on 12/11/2022 10:15:33 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

Why can’t these PTR, OSAS/OJAJ, SDA/EGW hater group members just ADMIT TO THEIR LIES? 3/3 right in a row. All they would have to say is “I was wrong, and I’m sorry for bearing false witness against Ellen G. White”

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


554 posted on 12/11/2022 10:23:17 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

You even lie about lying.

I’d strongly suggest you read all those damnation posts you try to hang around others’ necks, ‘cause your future ain’t lookin’ real pleasant right now.


555 posted on 12/11/2022 10:28:25 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

I reject your accusations, Pharisee.


556 posted on 12/11/2022 10:40:46 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

You reject my accusations, do you? LOL

You just can’t be serious. The proof of them is all over this thread!

You seem to lie to yourself a lot, also. Might want to think about that, Jupe. What else might you be lying to yourself about?


557 posted on 12/11/2022 10:44:36 PM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld
David repented of his sin (s). God forgave him.

Ahh--so you do admit that liars can get into heaven. And murderers. And adulterers. Why would that be? Grace? It must be, since they all broke the Law.

558 posted on 12/12/2022 4:07:36 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: Philsworld
Also, can you tell me why the PTR, and the SDA/EGW haters club, flat out lie about EGW barking and crawling? Why would professed Christians lie like that?

Why? I don't know. I'm not a mind reader.

I also don't know Ellen's history like some may around here. That's not my argument against her. My argument is that she was a false prophet and teacher.

559 posted on 12/12/2022 4:09:40 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: Philsworld
Why do these groups willfully break God’s law and by example, teach others to do the same?

Maybe it's the same reason you do

560 posted on 12/12/2022 4:11:29 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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