Posted on 12/05/2022 7:17:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Valid point, for those who could fall into the trap laid by false brethren.
The following really could not be clearer,
Galatians 3:19-25
King James Version
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
((I love reading Galatians because this was Paul’s attempt to warn those falling into bondage by the Judaizers. Paul counted the works of the flesh as dung.)
——>That’s very good, Patriot! Phil refuses to be a part of the Body of Christ as a “new creature” as the Bible defines us. He’s stuck in between old Isreal and what was Spiritual Israel AND the Israel to come.
——>And, yet and still, he believes God is done with Israel.
You mean THIS crap?
Yep, and Paul’s counting those works of the flesh as dung SHOULD get through to someone, but they won’t.
Cultists will quote Jesus’ words in the Gospels, prophets of the OT, Webster’s Dictionary or a phone book before they will quote our dear Apostle Paul, who is our example.
——>Many perish for lack of understanding.
They sure do.
So we won't vote in 2024.
And the following, once again could not be clearer.
Rejoice sister, for we’ve been set free, free indeed!
Galatians 4:21-31
King James Version
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Galatians 5:1-6
King James Version
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
This thread is the fruit of Establishment Jesus, the “Jesus” that the Jesus of the Bible warned everybody about.
If the Messiah believed the settled doctrines, he wouldn’t be able to recognize himself. Hmmm...
Well anyway, there are always ways to get around the blockades.
While the America-is-dead crowd piles on, he’s going to be in need of actual Can-Do People who’ll help him get his project off the ground. (It’s so hard to find good help these days.)
What’s your skillset?
TIA
——>I’ve known some of the same types, and after listening to their boasting of themselves and attempts to bring others under bondage...
OSAS/OJAJ hate God’s law because they think obedience to Him is bondage?
Hmmm...
A hearty “amen” to that, Patriot, and praise Christ Jesus!
Eccl 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
So, are you saying that you are now a “new creature” in the Body of Christ instead of all the other things?
Hold on. Gotta get my brick.
Got it. Hang on.
*Bang.* *Bang!*
OK. You are again fetching from the OT.
*BANG!!!*
(See what I mean?)
Romans 11 speaks of Grace being given to the Jew first, but because of the rejection of Jesus Christ, we as Gentiles were grafted in. But an assurance is also made that God will turn back to the Jews. And we know this through the promise of the restoration of Israel. This was God’s Covenant to the Jew first.
So is it any surprise that certain people reject the Promise made by God when they reject His Grace?
In post 126, I quoted Paul’s words describing the difference between the heir of the bond woman and the heirs of the children of Promise by faith.
Those under the bond woman reject the heirs of Promise by faith.
There are none so blind as those refusing to see.
Keep looking up Sister, this could be the Day.
Of course.
2 Cor 5:17Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!
17. In Christ. Paul’s favorite definition of what it is to be a Christian. When he became a Christian he was baptized “into Jesus Christ” (Rom. 6:3), and the new life he lives henceforth is centered in Christ (John 15:3–7). He is joined to Christ and wholly subject to His life, power, influence, and word. Paul’s whole life moves in a new, spiritual sphere. Nothing is exempted.
Only “in Christ” can a sinner find acceptance with God (Phil. 3:9) and sustenance for living the new life (John 15:4, 5; Gal 2:20). The joys and sorrows, triumphs and sufferings, of life are all “in Christ” (Rom. 14:17; Phil. 3:9, 10). Even death is robbed of its sting, for those who “die in the Lord” are blessed (Rev. 14:13). Christianity elevates every human experience and obligation into a new relationship, designated by the term “in Christ.”
Creature. Gr. ktisis, “creation,” “thing created,” “creature.” For a man to be constrained by the love of Christ to live no longer unto self but unto God, to judge men no longer by appearance but by the spirit, to know Christ according to the spirit and not according to the flesh, he must be created a new being. To transform a lost sinner into a “new creature” requires the same creative energy that originally brought forth life (John 3:3, 5; Rom. 6:5, 6; Eph. 2:10; Col. 3:9, 10). It is a supernatural operation, altogether foreign to normal human experience.
This new nature is not the product of moral virtue presumed by some to be inherent in man, and requiring only growth and expression. There are thousands of so-called moral men who make no profession of being Christians, and who are not “new” creatures. The new nature is not merely the product of a desire, or even of a resolution, to do right (Rom. 7:15–18), of mental assent to certain doctrines, of an exchange of one set of opinions or feelings for another, or even of sorrow from sin. It is the result of the presence of a supernatural element introduced into a man, which results in his dying to sin and being born again. Thus are we created anew in the likeness of Christ, adopted as sons and daughters of God, and set on a new path (see Eze. 36:26, 27; John 1:12, 13; 3:3– 7; 5:24; Eph. 1:19; 2:1, 10; 4:24; Titus 3:5; James 1:18). Thus we are made partakers of the divine nature and are granted possession of eternal life (2 Peter 1:4; 1 John 5:11, 12). The new believer is not born a full-grown, mature Christian; he first has the spiritual inexperience and immaturity of infancy. But as a son of God he does have the privilege and opportunity to grow up into the full stature of Christ (see on Matt. 5:48; Eph. 4:14– 16; 2 Peter 3:18).
Become new. See on Rom. 6:4–6. Textual evidence favors (cf. p. 10) the omission of the words “all things,” the last clause of v. 17 thus reading “they are become new.”
SDA Bible Commentary
Excellent post, Patriot.
We’re one day closer, at the least!!!
(It was all prophesied thousands of years in advance)
Yes I was going to say that
Used to exchange emails with the director’s brother, who also directed a few of his own.
SDA Bible Commentary.
No, thank you.
——>In post 126, I quoted Paul’s words describing the difference between the heir of the bond woman and the heirs of the children of Promise by faith.
It’s a good lesson. Unfortunately, you miss a very important point.
The Slave Woman and the Free Woman - Two Covenants
http://www.biblelightinfo.com/covenant-seal.htm
[NIV] Gal 4:24 These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar.
Gal 4:25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.
Hagar represents works righteousness, a failed attempt at justification by keeping the law by the flesh, by human effort, apart from God, not by faith.
Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.
Gal 4:30 But what does the Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”
Gal 4:31 Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.
Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.
Gal 5:2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.
Gal 5:3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.
Gal 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.
The free woman Sarah represents righteousness by faith, faith in Jesus Christ, who kept the law perfectly for us, and shed his blood to satisfy the demand that the sinner’s blood be shed.
Gal 5:5 But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope.
Gal 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
So it is not the law that is cast out with the Old Covenant, rather there is a change in how the law is viewed - in the New Covenant, the Law of God is internalized by His people:
2 Cor 3:3 You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
2 Cor 3:4 Such confidence as this is ours through Christ before God.
2 Cor 3:5 Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God.
2 Cor 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2 Cor 3:7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, fading though it was,
2 Cor 3:8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?
So the New Covenant differs in that it is not a covenant with God to keep the letter of the law written in stone, but a Covenant of faith, a faith that is automatically obedient to the spirit and will of God as expressed in His Law. A true faith does not view God’s Law as a burden to be kept externally, but an expression of love to be taken into the obedient heart and mind.
The only difference in the New Covenant, as shown above, is that the Law of God is now written in the hearts and minds of God’s true people, the people of faith who express their love of God by obedience to God’s Law:
Since the “people of the West” are the descendants National Israel, we are going into slavery once more. The word Egypt is used to denote slavery and a nation in scripture. We are currently being sold into slavery by our Elect ed.
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