Posted on 12/04/2022 1:16:23 PM PST by metmom
Give it up, Sinner, and let God do the saving now, so you are not made to stand for judgment at the Great White Throne of Judgment. Believe in God's Grace and be saved now, and have His seal upon your spirit.
Thye mystery of godliness is that the born again HAVE The Holy Spirit abiding IN their newborn spirit. Thus His Presence is The Seal of righteousness you can never accomplish on your own.
IF you are seriously asking, I will be honest to post what God has given to me to understand on the dead IN CHRIST and The Rapture/Great Departure. Based upon your posts I am not convinced you are asking but rather baiting so you can post more argumentation for cultish beliefs. BUT if you actually want an honest response, I will try my best to explain it to you.
And you are not?
Then how will we know if your name is found in The Book of Life?
Why do my ‘intentions’ matter?
Don’t you want any lurkers to be unconfused at what the Scriptures teach?
Because you reject the Rapture as God giving each believer a new body and behavior mechanism, you cannot spiritually ‘see’ that we who are IN CHRIST are not among the dead in the quote you so ardently want to rule ALL.
Acts 15:1
Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.”
Elsie, your current posting efforts are aimed at sowing confusion, as you reject anything that disagrees with your soul sleep misconception and rejection of the Great Departure of the Body of Believers in whose spirit is the SEAL of God’s Holy Spirit, thus imputing Christ’s Righteousness to each of the born again.
Elsie, I offered to walk you through any passage you are concerned with by pm.
One man’s misconception is another man’s clarity.
Elsie, I offered to walk you through any passage you are concerned with by pm.
Really?
I am not concerned about any of them.
I try to merely post Scripture without my or anyone elses 'explanation' of them.
You guys are overly concerned that I do not accept the 'Authorized Version' of the meaning of things.
But to go as far as to say that I am probably not 'saved'?
You posted to me in response to something I posted to another FReeper, asking a question about other passages.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/4113877/posts?page=66#66
I tried to answer you out of kindness and offered to explain any of those passages you referred to.
Then you asked me about what you are missing by not having access to the original languages.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/4113877/posts?page=133#133
And I again reminded you I offered to interact about any passage with you by pm.
If you live never knowing you are saved and secure, you will not advance into the positional truths. That said, there is a time for everything, "first the seed then the blade, then the leaf."
But to go as far as to say that I am probably not 'saved'?
You are not required to believe in eternal security to be saved. And if you are saved, you are secure, whether you accept it or not. I simply offered to discuss something in response to your questions.
Since you do not wish to do that, it's fine.
Blessings and Merry Christmas!
From what I read in the Bible, I am 'saved and secure', as long as I continue to believe.
Ok, now that I understand. Great post!
So you are in charge of the SEAL? Oh my!
—> From what I read in the Bible, I am ‘saved and secure’, as long as I continue to believe.
I’m happy for you to believe and mature at your own pace and God’s time.
Our conversation reminds me of a couple who went to a wedding reception!
True story.
Very crowded!
They saw people crowded around a table.
Worked their way to the front and saw a wonderful spread of appetizers!
More kinds than they had ever seen, and all their favorites
They started filling their plates and stuffing their faces until they couldn’t eat any more.
After their momentum slowed, they wondered from the table to meet other guests.
As they circled the room, they noticed people streaming through a door to another room…
When they entered , they saw several tables of Mexican food. Being from TX, they loved Mexican food!
Again, they began to fill their plates, but this time with Mexican food.
They were full, but there’s always room for Mexican food!
They ate until they thought they could hold no more..
They couldn’t hold anymore, and they backed away from the table area and began to walk away, when they saw a door with people streaming through it.
They entered the next room, and right in front of them was a seafood buffet
They looked at each other, and couldn’t believe they filled up on appetizers and Mexican food, because they love seafood!
So again, I got in line and got plates, but could only get a tiny bit of seafood because they were so stuffed.
After gingerly eating, there were seafood, they sat their plates down and started to walk away, when they saw another door.
They looked at each other, and both started toward that door at wants to see what was on the other side.
When they got through the door in front of them was a steak buffet!
They looked at each other in total disbelief, and simultaneously said I can’t eat anything else.
Believers frequently find themselves in the identical situation, having come to faith, but not knowing the riches of that salvation.
May we all enter fully into the inheritance prepared for each believer.
I am DEFINITELY in charge of what I believe.
Once again I ask what are these extra riches I am missing out on?
And what do I do to achieve them?
The extras are entering into positional truths
You come to faith in God’s complete gift.
Well then; I must be missing out, because I do not what a ‘positional truth’ is.
Do you believe God Seals the spirit of the born again when HE justifies them by His Grace?
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