Posted on 11/11/2022 6:16:24 PM PST by ebb tide
Remember Mr Cricket? Flipping off the entire world? Loathing the people who desire traditional worship? Drowning wonk shouting for attention?
Keep in mind what I have been saying. For Solum Vaticanum II extremists, the imagined spirit of the Council gives permission to reinterpret everything before the Council. Everything.
From a reader…
Andrea Grillo continues to show his cards. He writes in a comment to a critic of a recent (Nov. 8) article of his:
“The analogy between the Tridentine rite and marriage nullity is based on the need to translate tradition. What was delivered to us by the 19th century and the first half of the 20th century no longer has any structural evidence. The ‘fiction’ of nullity is only an extreme case of a theology of marriage conditioned not by Scripture or theology but by the Tametsi Decree. The inability to distinguish between these levels is the ‘meanness’ at play. That only marriage justifies the use of sex is a Pauline view that history has profoundly altered. And it calls for a profound rethinking, even as the Second Vatican Council inaugurated with the liturgical reform and with the rethinking of the Church, the Word, and the relationship [of these] with the world.”
History cannot alter the past.
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I am not sure what small recent period of history you are talking about.
Marriage has not traditionally been between one man and one woman.
Throughout history successful men have had many women but unlike today they have had them all at once, not one at a time.
You’re ignoring the key word, “Pauline”. Your argument is moot.
Some men in recent history have openly practised polygamy. Hugh Hefner and Charlie Sheen come to mind.
So we can safely ignore everything in the Gospels attributed to Paul, which is most everything the progressives happen to disagree with.
Yes, it has.
Throughout history successful men have had many women
You are talking about a fraction of a percent of the men.
Most men would have had one wife at a time.
Go read the "found baby" legends that are pervasive throughout folklore and myth.
Childless couple finds lost baby and raises them as their own, kid turns out to be a hero. You notice there is rarely a brings baby home to "wives" but "wife". And that is a world wide theme.
Also whenever there stories of men with more then one wife you have turmoil in the family. Once again, world wide theme.
The way we convey information from one generation to the next is through stories. When you come across a world wide theme you know you have hit on a human truth.
“we can safely ignore everything in the Gospels attributed to Paul, which is most everything the progressives happen to disagree with.”
Some sources say he had severe cranial trauma prior to espousing all that stuff.
Selective reading of history.
Multiple wives was not a common thing for the common man.
Just a fact.
Kings were different.
But wide spread polygamy is not a stable way to run a society long term. You end up with too many spare men. So you end up having to kill them off.
Polygamy or polyandry is a short term solution to a shortage of one sex or another. But once the numbers even out, and they always do, people move back toward one man, one woman.
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