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Pope presides over Zairean rite "marked by drum music, dancing, shouts of jubilation" — and the Traditional Latin Mass is to be abolished?
Rorate Caeli ^ | July 4, 2022 | Peter Kwasniewski

Posted on 07/04/2022 2:42:17 PM PDT by ebb tide

Pope presides over Zairean rite "marked by drum music, dancing, shouts of jubilation" — and the Traditional Latin Mass is to be abolished?


Holy Mass with Pope Francis for Congolese Community in Rome

It's worth watching at various points to get a feel for what it's like: the Gloria... the Gospel... the Offering... Isn't all this a contradiction of TC and DD? Or are we now to believe that the Novus Ordo and the Zairean Rite are identical? What was that about "the Novus Ordo is the unique lex orandi of the Catholic Church"?


Perhaps Pope Francis and the cardinals who support him define it as follows: there is the Novus Ordo as a nebulous "idea" that nebulously fulfills a nebulous "Vatican II" -- and then there are different realizations or instantiations of it, of which the Zairean Rite is just one.

"The Zairean Rite of Mass, officially actually 'Roman Rite of Mass for the Dioceses of Zaire,' was promulgated by Pope John Paul II in 1988. It is a form of the Roman Rite that is heavily infused with African traditions. Thus, there is a large opening section in which the saints and the ancestors are invoked. Also, the role of the lector is modeled after that of a crier in the village" (source). "The Mass, attended by about 2,000 people, was marked by loud drum music, much dancing and shouts of jubilation" (source).

Entrance
Entrance of the lector
Greeting of the faithful and invitation to prayer
Entry procession of the clergy
Blessing of the altar
Greeting of the faithful
Introduction to the liturgy
Invocation of the saints and ancestors
Canticle (Gloria)
Opening prayer
Liturgy of the Word [...]
Eucharist [...]
Exit

Some screenshots:


From the Sanctus on, the concelebrants hold ciboriums in their hands -- these are not on the altar during the consecration. In this posture the concelebrants also pray the Lord's Prayer


Communion distribution

One must wonder where the similarities still lie between this Zairean rite celebrated yesterday in St. Peter's Basilica, and, for example:

a service of "Maria 2.0" in the Frankfurt Cathedral:

.. a youth service in Stuttgart:

...and a "normal" parish Mass?


Parish administrator Marianne Arndt preaches at a Mass in Cologne

If all this somehow means "unity" -- why should Almighty God then not be able to be worshipped and adored in a form that enjoyed continuous use in the Church for over a thousand years and was mandatory until 1965?


How would Pope Francis and his advisors know that the Novus Ordo together with its arbitrary implementations is the "unique lex orandi" that is pleasing to God? Why would the form handed down over centuries no longer be pleasing to God?

Faithful Catholics are neither blind nor stupid. The contradictions are so obvious by now that the progressives are merely shooting themselves in the foot, and everywhere else, the more they speak and act.

(My thanks to Monika Rheinschmitt of Pro Missa Tridentina for the photos and much of the foregoing text, published with her permission. SEE ALSO Fr. Zuhlsdorf, "African Zairian Rite celebrated in St. Peter’s Basilica – UPATED: Meanwhile, Down Under….")


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
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If all this somehow means "unity" -- why should Almighty God then not be able to be worshipped and adored in a form that enjoyed continuous use in the Church for over a thousand years and was mandatory until 1965?


1 posted on 07/04/2022 2:42:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 07/04/2022 2:42:51 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

I do NOT follow this anti-Christ Pope.....I follow The TRINITY!


3 posted on 07/04/2022 2:43:49 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

“there is a large opening section in which the saints and the ancestors are invoked.”

A.k.a. demonic spirits.


4 posted on 07/04/2022 2:51:38 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

You’re deceased grandparents are demonic spirits?

Interesting!


5 posted on 07/04/2022 2:57:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

It’s well known that demonic spirits often pose to be ancestors or saints who’ve passed. That’s why it’s so spiritually dangerous to involve them and a forbidden practice.


6 posted on 07/04/2022 3:06:28 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ebb tide

Hey!! No jubilation!!!!


7 posted on 07/04/2022 3:09:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ebb tide

Abbé Janvier Gbénou’s Response to Pope Francis: “You have scandalised the whole world several times by contradicting Christian Tradition”

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2022/07/abbe-janvier-gbenous-response-to-pope.html


8 posted on 07/04/2022 3:10:20 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: ebb tide

Here’s a pretty good explanation of what happens when “invoking” the dead.
https://www.gotquestions.org/praying-to-the-dead.html


9 posted on 07/04/2022 3:11:11 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ebb tide

Abbé Janvier Gbénou’s Response to Pope Francis:

“You have scandalised the whole world several times by contradicting Christian Tradition”

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2022/07/abbe-janvier-gbenous-response-to-pope.html


10 posted on 07/04/2022 3:14:13 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: ebb tide

So sorry, wrong link (although it had good info, too.)

This is what I wanted to share with you.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-necromancy.html


11 posted on 07/04/2022 3:17:39 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz
It’s well known that demonic spirits often pose to be ancestors or saints who’ve passed. That’s why it’s so spiritually dangerous to involve them and a forbidden practice.

Praying to the saints is forbidden???

By whom?

12 posted on 07/04/2022 3:17:52 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: ViLaLuz

I mean, St. Anthony of Padua has retrieved enough lost stuff for me that I could fill a small room with it. I’ve yet to sprout horns or smell sulfur. (Am I missing something here?)


13 posted on 07/04/2022 3:21:13 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot

Lots of answers here.

https://www.gotquestions.org/worship-saints-Mary.html


14 posted on 07/04/2022 3:22:32 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SamuraiScot

https://www.gotquestions.org/prayer-saints-Mary.html

More good biblical answers there.


15 posted on 07/04/2022 3:26:37 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz
Lots of answers here.

https://www.gotquestions.org/worship-saints-Mary.html

Ooog. I'm sorry, that source seems superstitious and goofy.

How many billions of Rosaries were prayed, plus several apparitions seen, by how many millions of Jesus' friends and disciples, before that writer was born?

You may not pray to the saints (who are always invoked explicitly through God, btw), but . . . highway of the evil and demonic? By their fruits you shall know them.

I'll go with, "Your results may differ." But I hope they don't.

16 posted on 07/04/2022 3:43:56 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: ebb tide

Pope Francis: Make Apostasy Great Again!

Why do you marvel? Marxism requires destruction of all previous traditions.


17 posted on 07/04/2022 3:51:40 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener

Who’s “marveling”?

Not I.


18 posted on 07/04/2022 3:59:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: SamuraiScot

I truly get where you’re coming from. I was raised in the Roman Catholic church. After I became born again and discovered the joy of spending time with Our Lord. He is the Word! I love browsing through GotQuestions.org, the is so much interesting biblically-based information. There was a time in my life, thanks to God now over, that I would have mocked that site.

The main thing always is to remember Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and He’s coming back for us very soon!


19 posted on 07/04/2022 4:04:23 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz
The main thing always is to remember Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior.

True, dat!

and He’s coming back for us very soon!

I have a few things I'd still like to take care of, to get the house in order. . .

And yet, we know not the hour!

20 posted on 07/04/2022 4:27:37 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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