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The Reason For My Faith ^ | 5/14/22 | Evolved

Posted on 05/14/2022 7:23:24 PM PDT by OneVike

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To: Deaf Smith

I hate autocorrect


41 posted on 05/15/2022 1:06:30 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: OneVike
You must obviously believe in an “Author”.

Guilty as charged. 🙂

42 posted on 05/15/2022 5:22:26 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: TexasGator

Actually the same Hebrew word used for day in Genesis is the same one used in Exodus for taking a day of rest fir the Sabbath

Unless you believe God to Moses to take an era off instead of a day


43 posted on 05/15/2022 6:53:18 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Robert DeLong

:)


44 posted on 05/15/2022 6:54:49 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: lasereye; OneVike

The standard argument against intelligent design is nothing more than playing with words. It goes ‘That’s “religion”, therefore it’s not “science”, and therefore not a valid alternative to evolution’.
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Intelligent Design IS a a valid alternative to evolution but not in the realm of Science.

A few of the fundamental constraints on the Method of Science include:
1. It must be empirical, i.e. observable.
2. It must be cause and effect, i.e. determinism.
3. It must be natural, i.e. follow the Laws of Physics & Chemistry.

Numbers 1 and 3 rule out Intelligent Design as a scientific artifact since intelligence cannot be observed by experimental means plus it is “supernatural.” No law of science states that e=m(intelligence)squared.

Other philosophies, such as teleology, admit “intelligence” since “purpose” is an aspect of that philosophy, which is the philosophy of religion. I suppose the statement, “Design requires a designer,” is a powerful force if one is comfortable with the idea of a designer. The Christian sees this beauty and asserts that the design that God made is more wonderful than ever.

Having seen the design of science at its peak, medical students assert, “It’s all physiology!” Their observation of the fabulous design of living things moves many to believe that just happened by chance.

There is no evidence to support “theistic evolution.” The evidence needed to support that view is identical to evidence that would support “non-theistic evolution.”

An evolutionist or atheist who claims to have a purpose in life has left the realm of science and entered the realm of religion.


45 posted on 05/15/2022 1:07:18 PM PDT by NorthStarOkie (In all that you do, glorify the name of the Lord.)
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To: OneVike

God created night and day on the first day.
The sun was created on the fourth day. Until the fourth day it was not possible to have a 24 hour day.


46 posted on 05/15/2022 1:13:40 PM PDT by NorthStarOkie (In all that you do, glorify the name of the Lord.)
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1. It must be empirical, i.e. observable.
2. It must be cause and effect, i.e. determinism.
3. It must be natural, i.e. follow the Laws of Physics & Chemistry.

ID arguments are generally all three of those. An example is irreducible complexity.

47 posted on 05/15/2022 2:31:45 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: NorthStarOkie

It had GOD, the sun does not determine light, the One Who Is LIGHT gives light and the thus the moon and the sun just added to the distinction.

The Light Which Created the sun, is so bright the sun is not visible in HIS presence.

This is what evolutionists cannot comprehend, the truth light comes from the creator. The sun is but a symbol of the day, while the moon is the symbol of the night, which were created after HE created the days and nights


48 posted on 05/15/2022 6:12:55 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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...Back in the day...
...It took two days for me to drive to the in-laws...
...At this exact time two days from now...

Three different uses of the word “day.”
1. an indefinite period of time
2. not 48 hours to the nanosecond, actually about 12 to 15 hours driving, spread over two days
3. 48 hours.

Genesis 1 is silent whether day is a period of time or 24.000 hours. Choosing one or the other is not a test of fellowship and doesn’t modify the purpose of Genesis 1, showing that all things were the creation of God. I go with the “period of time” and “what difference does it make.”

A similar discussion revolves around the statements that the Lord will rise on the third day. Some preachers have taken that to means 72.0000 hours.

Science doesn’t incorporate the concept of “purpose” in its operation. (Think: Tossing 10 fair coins. The coins do not require a “purpose”.) Intelligent design implies a purpose. The two are mutually exclusive.

In the NOVA show, “The Rise of the Mammals” (IIRC) the commentator stated that since the forest in which little horse (IIRC) lived was disappearing it was “necessary” that little horse evolve.

There is no “necessary” in Science. That phrasing attached “purpose” to the evolution of the little horse so he could survive. I would have expected a phrasing such as, it was a fortunate happening that little horse evolved in such a way that he was able to survive the disappearance of the forest.

Genesis 1: God created everything.
Genesis 2: Man is a special creation.
Genesis 3: God: Now what do I do? (Take that in a very general sense.)
God’s first covenant is with Noah.
God’s second covenant is with Abram. With all the messes that follow, the theme of the Old Testament is, God: “I’m going to keep my covenant with Abraham.”
God’s next covenant is the one we find in the New Testament.


49 posted on 05/15/2022 7:25:39 PM PDT by NorthStarOkie (In all that you do, glorify the name of the Lord.)
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To: NorthStarOkie

Actually, if you knew Hebrew you would know the same word and phrase used in Genesis to determine a day is the same word/phrase used in Exodus where God handed Moses the Sabbath law about taking a day of rest. It was not eons, nor generations, it was a physical 24 hour day.

Through the Scriptures of we see the different word/phrases used for different spans of time, but for a 24 hour day it is always the same.

Do you take a 1000 years off to rest, or maybe an eon? No, you take a day.

God knew what HE was saying, even if you are not sure.

Now the 24 hour day did exist before the sun and moon were created, and thus each and every day GOD said this is good.

He did not say it was good, and then use evolution which needs death and destruction to work, He called it good, because death and destruction never entered the universe until after Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good an evil.

To say God did not do as the texts tell us HE did, is borderline Blasphemous, because then you claim GODD lied, or told a fib.

Nothing in GOD is a lie and HE does not jest.


50 posted on 05/16/2022 6:59:49 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
Articles were created in Mr. Boyce’s 10th English Class. As were prepositions and dangling infinitaves.
51 posted on 05/16/2022 7:03:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: lasereye

Texts were added, removed and edited.


52 posted on 05/16/2022 4:08:00 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: lasereye

Depends


53 posted on 05/16/2022 4:08:55 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator
Texts were added, removed and edited.

That's the kind of fact-free claim atheists always say.

Manuscript evidence is the only fact-based way of determining such a claim. There's zero manuscript evidence of that in the Old Testament.

The Dead Sea scrolls discovered in 1947 provide a set of manuscripts 1,000 years older than any that were found prior to that. It contains parts of every book of the Old Testament with the exception of Esther. It incudes virtually the entire book of Isaiah. It was assumed by certain people that there would be lots of differences between the older manuscripts and the more recent ones. There were essentially no differences.

54 posted on 05/17/2022 6:53:12 AM PDT by lasereye
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