Posted on 04/29/2022 5:05:05 PM PDT by ebb tide
As regular Bondings 2.0 readers know well by now, German Catholics continue to lead on LGBTQ equality in the church. Today’s post features several updates from the country.
#OutInChurch Panel Seeks Discussion Beyond Homosexuality
Panelists in a Diocese of Limburg event were insistent that conversations about reform in the church include questions of gender identity and polyamorous relationships. Eric Tilch, a gay church worker, criticized public discourse around LGBTQ issues as focusing “too much on homosexual men” and monogamy. He commented, per the diocesan website’s report (via Google Translate):
“‘I can only feel accepted by the church as a gay man if I’m also accepted with changing partners. . .I worry that the church is attached to a family picture from the 1950s, i.e. father, mother, child. . .There is so much more than that, for example blended families, changing relationships, polyamorous love…'”
Other speakers identified the need for expanded conversations about transgender and intersex people. Petra Weitzel of the German Society for Transidentity and Intersexuality was one such voice:
“Weitzel asked that children and young people who attend Catholic kindergartens and schools be taken seriously if they made it clear early on that what they felt did not match their biological gender [sic]. It must also be clarified that intersex children, i.e. children who are born with both sexes and are initially not assigned to the female or male gender, can still be baptized. . .’Forced operations on intersex children are unambiguously violent and, above all, externally determined interventions,’ Petra Weitzel clarified.”
The Limburg event was organized by Holger Dörnemann, the diocesan LGBTQ liasion, and Hubertus Pantlen, a theologian and chaplain. Bettina Offer, a parishioner in a same-gender marriage, concluded with this comment:
“‘I actually expect my church to grab the rainbow flag and go ahead instead of lagging behind!'”
Paderborn Priests Protest LGBTQ-Negative Book
The council representing priests in the Archdiocese of Paderborn has written a protest letter to Archbishop Hans-Josef Becker. The Tablet reported:
“Last Christmas Becker sent the more than one thousand priests in his archdiocese a book by emeritus Curia Cardinal Paul Cordes on the 60th anniversary of his priesthood. It now turns out that in one chapter Cordes says that homosexuality is ‘profoundly against God’s will’.
“Enclosed in Cordes’ book was a letter by Archbishop Becker announcing that he had founded a work group to handle ‘queer-sensitive pastoral work’ in the archdiocese.
“The archdiocese explained on 31 March that Cordes, who was from the archdiocese of Paderborn, had dedicated his book to the archdiocese’s priests. ‘Opinions [on homosexuality] differ and these differences must be taken into consideration’, the archdiocesan statement said.”
LGBTQ Catholics Speak Out in New Interviews
Leaders of German Catholics’ LGBTQ efforts have given interviews (in German) continuing their calls for greater inclusion and reforms. Mara Klein, a non-binary delegate in the Synodal Way, spoke about their experiences engaging bishops in dialogue, the decision to back away from church work potentially, and more. That interview is available at Katholisch.de here.
On the same website, organizers of #OutInChurch Fr. Bernd Mönkebüscher and Rainer Teuber spoke about how the campaign was more successful than expected, but still required much work, including formal changes to the labor law so that anti-LGBTQ discrimination against church workers is outlawed. To read their interview, click here.
—Robert Shine (he/him), New Ways Ministry, April 29, 2022
Frankenchurch Barf Alert
Bergoglio will be cordial with them or ignore them as they wreak havoc in Germany while he is rigid with Traditionalists and those who love the TLM.
the wolves in sheep’s clothes have been multiplying rapidly
Why dont they just say everything is OK. Do whatever makes you happy. Where will that leave us as a society?’
“Thou shalt not commit adultery”
For liberals the Ten Commandments is a ‘things-to-do’ list.
The priest asks, "how about same-sex marriage?"
The Lord immediately answers, "Not in My lifetime!"
Easy enough-
1) sin.
2) sin.
Say three Hail Mary’s and call me in the morning.
The Left hates and despises all Faith. Religion is only a tool to manipulate the masses, or so the Left thinks.
This story is a perfect example: Lefty wants to rewrite sin out of the Bible. Beware Christian.
Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
“The time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 4:3-4
The church has been totally corrupted.
This!!!!!!! 😢
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