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To: Elsie

You have rejected at least two of the things I offered to you, so I do have those examples of your disbelief. ONLY through study would someone find the notion of soul and spirit being separated when the spirit is born again. It also requires reason, where God does not put His abiding spirit into the flesh. He abides in the spirit of the born agains (1 John 3:9). Since The Holy Spirit never leaves someone once he takes up abiding in their spirit that human redeemed spirit does not sleep in the dust because it is with The Lord after the death of the person. The refusals to even contemplate the issues is a sign of rejection of the notions, in other words, disbelief. I can read your posts and come to that conclusion.


925 posted on 03/25/2022 10:01:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Carried over from post 834:

Do you believe God abides in the born again spirit?
Born again in the Spirit
Born again of the Spirit

NOT “a” born again spirit.

Born again humans are not spirits. The Holy Spirit resides in us. We are born OF THE SPIRIT.

John 3:6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.


930 posted on 03/26/2022 4:50:34 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN
You have rejected at least two of the things I offered to you, so I do have those examples of your disbelief.

Which two?

Does rejection REALLY equal disbelief in your mind?


He abides in the spirit of the born agains (1 John 3:9).

Well; if you think that 'seed' (sperma) equals the Holy Spirit, but a better match is made here: (John 14:16–17)


Since The Holy Spirit never leaves someone once he takes up abiding in their spirit that human redeemed spirit does not sleep in the dust because it is with The Lord after the death of the person.

Bad logic.

It is WITH the believer while he lives; awake or ASLEEP.

Why can't it still be with him as he sleeps in the dust, awaiting that trumpet sound?


David, a 'man after GOD's own heart' was a 'believer' yet he sinned.

He was remorseful and wrote:


He did NOT write, "retore your salvation to me", but...

...restore the joy of your salvation to me...

931 posted on 03/26/2022 4:51:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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