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To: Luircin

How fortunate that it is impossible for someone who abides in God’s grace to sin unrepentantly.


Because saved by grace means they are now all robots and can’t sin?

Nope! Paul describes exactly the opposite, those originally SAVED BY GRACE. Then, they revert back to their old ways....”and hath done despite unto the spirit of Grace”.

Hebrews 10:

26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


206 posted on 03/13/2022 7:07:40 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld; metmom; MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; Luircin; boatbums; Mark17

Hi, Phil. I’m going to try it, but I think I already know what’s coming.

1. For whom did Jesus state He came?

2. Was the Kingdom promised to Israel or to gentiles?

3. Was, and will in future, Israel to be tasked with bringing people to the knowledge of God?

4. Are gentiles part of God’s future program to bring people to Him when Jesus returns?

5. Will the “Son of David” rule over the earthly Kingdom of Israel?

Regarding your oft asked question of Ravi Zacharias possibly sinning in such a wicked way is that God forgives ALL of our sins. Self-righteous people hate the notion.

6. Do you believe God is operating a plan in which He saves people but then learns they sin and un-saves them?

7. When God saved us, did He not know the sins we would commit in the future?

8. Could God not look forward in time and see what was going to happen in the future when He saved the person?

It is the Holy Spirit in us that drives us to not sin but at times we are all overcome by the desires of the flesh ... including you. We repent and try again. If RV really did what he was accused of doing, trust real Christians when they tell you that RV was severely chastised and the burden of sinning in such an awful way tore at his spirit. He paid severely, I guarantee you.


209 posted on 03/13/2022 10:26:11 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: Philsworld
    If one from the "little flock," does not watch (his behavior), there are three options (in reduced severity):
  1. he may be assigned a portion with the unbelievers
  2. he may be beaten with many stripes
  3. he may be beaten with few stripes


Peter specifically asked the Messiah if this teaching only applied to the disciples or to all. The Messiah answered that it did apply to the disciples eligible to be put in a position of authority over all that the LORD has.

Luke 12:32-48
King James Version
32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;

36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?

42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more

221 posted on 03/13/2022 3:16:35 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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