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To: Philsworld

The penalty for unrepentant sin is eternal death.

How fortunate that it is impossible for someone who abides in God’s grace to sin unrepentantly.

And all those who depend on their own works and believe false prophets cannot repent at all.

Which camp do you fall into, Phil?


191 posted on 03/12/2022 12:02:13 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin; MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; daniel1212; Mark17; Elsie; Old Yeller; SouthernClaire; ...

The whole hypothetical argument of a believer living in unrepentant sin is just that - it’s hypothetical.

What the problems are on many levels are…..

1) Anyone living in unrepentant sin is not likely a believer in the first place.

2) This argument is often posted by those who scream the loudest when someone else makes a comment about the state of their soul, and then hypocritically then sets up hypothetical scenarios and demand others make the very judgment they just condemned about a person that doesn’t exist.

3) As far as a believer living in sin or sinning, we all struggle with sins where we are weak. Paul addresses this in Romans 7. From the outside, it can look like living in unrepentant sin, but since we don’t know the heart, we do not know how the person feels about the situation they are in.

4) Romans 8:1 tells us that in spite of our struggle with sin as outlined in Romans 7, we are not condemned.

5) It is God’s place to determine the state of a person’s soul, not ours and it’s disingenuous to demand other believers make determinations that are only God’s purview.

6) Proverbs 6:16-19 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him:
haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil,
a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

It seems that some on this board are out to deliberately pit Christians against each other, putting themselves squarely in several of the aforementioned categories. They condemn Protestantism as being fractured and thus inferior to their preferred religion, and then turn around and deliberately try to provoke from believers the very thing they claim about Christians since they can’t find any real life examples to use.


193 posted on 03/12/2022 3:39:07 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Luircin

How fortunate that it is impossible for someone who abides in God’s grace to sin unrepentantly.


Because saved by grace means they are now all robots and can’t sin?

Nope! Paul describes exactly the opposite, those originally SAVED BY GRACE. Then, they revert back to their old ways....”and hath done despite unto the spirit of Grace”.

Hebrews 10:

26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


206 posted on 03/13/2022 7:07:40 AM PDT by Philsworld
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