I think you are spot on metmon.
They get quite animated about it when you point out these things too.
I wonder, should we explain the consequences of sin in the life of a born again member of the Body of Christ Believers? The SDA cultist keeps floundering around, flipping and flopping angrily about his disbelief in OSAS. Of course the cultist will not comprehend the explanation, but should we try, for those who might be clicking on this thread out of curiosity?