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To: MurphsLaw

The fruit of the Spirit, IOW, the character of Christ being lived out in one’s life.

Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

And Jesus said this…..

John 13:35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

If you’re looking for a list of works and rituals and ceremonies, that isn’t going to cut it. Law keeping is no evidence of salvation. Even the pharisees kept the law, even perfectly, to the letter, as Paul did, and it is worthless towards being saved.

Galatians 3:1-6 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

Galatians 3:10-11 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”

And Jesus had this to say about works.
Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Law keeping does not save anyone because that is not the purpose of the Law. The Law wasn’t given to make people righteous by following it. It was given to expose sin and show us our need for Christ, that we might come to Him and throw ourselves on the mercy of the court, so to speak, and find mercy and forgiveness for the sin we could never pay for ourselves.

And since the wages of sin is death, any other payment given to try to apprehend forgiveness is not going to work. All the righteous deeds in the world, all the Law keeping, all the rituals, etc, cannot pay for sin because they are the wrong form of payment.

Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Only Jesus’ blood can cleanse sin. Works can’t obtain it nor maintain it.


128 posted on 03/08/2022 10:11:52 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom
And since the wages of sin is death, any other payment given to try to apprehend forgiveness is not going to work.

No, there are no "other payments" of forgiveness other than confession AND penance.

Conversely though, The wages of sin ARE NOT DEATH if I am saved in your way and sin has no consequence for me any further.
If works prove nothing toward Salvation - then they also cannot contribute to one's damnation as well- so as the man said... you are free to sin, sin away..

If sin was so unimportant for our salvation- why would The New Testament spend TWICE as much ink talking about sin than it does Salvation.

It is not right to think one is saved once and for all... immune from sin...
Christ has said otherwise...
141 posted on 03/09/2022 11:08:48 AM PST by MurphsLaw ("We are not Saved by the Words of God per se, rather We are Saved by the Word of God, Made Flesh.")
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