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To: MurphsLaw
Are they going to Heaven?

Are you asking a mere human to judge these two on the condition of their souls?

Throughout his life, David - a man after GOD's own heart, was always killing one enemy or another.

Will we see him in heaven?

101 posted on 03/08/2022 3:19:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Are you asking a mere human to judge these two on the condition of their souls?

Certainly and after blowing a gasket and condemning others who seem to be making judgments about their souls, those Catholics then turn around and set up gotcha scenarios and demand you judge the condition of some hypothetical or real person’s soul.

105 posted on 03/08/2022 3:53:13 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Elsie
Are you asking a mere human to judge these two on the condition of their souls?

Based on how one adheres to their professed claoms to Christianity...absolutely.
Otherwise, are you now suggesting mere humans are incapable of judging the souls of other humans or themselves? Is that what you believe?
I dont think there is anything "mere" about that process at all... do you?

Throughout his life, David - a man after GOD's own heart, was always killing one enemy or another.
Will we see him in heaven?


You will for sure, and why not?
Now realize his Covenant with God came much earlier than Jesus, so he had a different set of rules to run witb... and being of the Chosen people and all that, God would certainly spare his natural branch, for sure.
Think of it this way, as such of a Chosen elect like that, very similar- or forerunner of- in a pre-Calvinist way, he had no free- will to avoid those bad things he did-
So he was pre-destined to commit them in the first place, not culpable.
And even still, David would express remorse and sorrow, begging God's mercy...
Unlike the 2 unrepentant knuckleheads I cited, who are very culpable in the New Covenant...


126 posted on 03/08/2022 9:18:10 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("W,e are not Saved by the Words of God per se, rather We are Saved by the Word of God, Made Flesh.")
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To: Elsie
Are you asking a mere human to judge these two on the condition of their souls? Throughout his life, David - a man after GOD's own heart, was always killing one enemy or another. Will we see him in heaven?

That’s exactly what non-Christians demand.

Happily, that is God’s determination to make, not mine.

Don’t forget, In 2 Peter, the Holy Spirit refers to Lot as “righteous”, hardly a term I would use of a man with his lifestyle and choices, but then again, it’s not my determination to make.

OTOH, Jesus had a lot to say about the pharisees in Matthew 23, and those were the guys who kept the letter of the Law perfectly. So much for law keeping gaining anyone salvation.

194 posted on 03/12/2022 3:44:34 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Elsie
Are you asking a mere human to judge these two on the condition of their souls? Throughout his life, David - a man after GOD's own heart, was always killing one enemy or another. Will we see him in heaven?

That’s exactly what non-Christians demand.

Happily, that is God’s determination to make, not mine.

Don’t forget, In 2 Peter, the Holy Spirit refers to Lot as “righteous”, hardly a term I would use of a man with his lifestyle and choices, but then again, it’s not my determination to make.

OTOH, Jesus had a lot to say about the pharisees in Matthew 23, and those were the guys who kept the letter of the Law perfectly. So much for law keeping gaining anyone salvation.

195 posted on 03/12/2022 3:45:10 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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