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Catholics Don't Believe You Can Earn Your Way to Heaven
Tradition | 03-06-2022 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 03/06/2022 11:16:06 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

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To: Elsie
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The catastrophic effects of a small error "summed up the whole problem of software reliability" and contributed to the development of the discipline of software engineering.[18]

2,921 posted on 04/23/2022 5:16:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld

-—>It’s blasphemous because it means that Jesus was NOT the only sinless one to ever live.

“You would be right if we were only talking about ON THIS EARTH, but we aren’t. Have the angels who are in heaven right now, ever sinned? Is that blasphemous? Has Gabriel ever sinned? NO THEY HAVE NOT. How about other created beings on other planets? Get it?”

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Oh, unbunch those knickers and listen for a change.

God did not create angels in His own image. You asked, “How about other created beings on other planets?” Where? Who? That is so important that God would not have left it out of His word. Get it? There’s only ONE Sinless One, Christ Jesus. Get it? There are no glowing people on Kolob or wherever your prophetess was taken by her “guides.”

You don’t believe the Bible, you believe your prophetess.


2,922 posted on 04/23/2022 5:18:21 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: Luircin

——>Psst, Phil, the link I gave you twice contains the citations that you’re demanding.

Not from “LAW EXPERTS”. You said there were 12 (a dozen). Please list those. Or are you making that up too?


2,923 posted on 04/23/2022 5:18:23 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

Were Adam and Eve sinless before they “sinned”?


2,924 posted on 04/23/2022 5:19:49 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

You can lead a Phil to Scripture but you can’t make him think.

I’m bored of you now. Have the last word for tge moment if you like; I’ll wait until the next thread to wipe out your false prophetess on again and again.


2,925 posted on 04/23/2022 5:24:04 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Philsworld

“Were Adam and Eve sinless before they “sinned”?”

Is that a real question? I know where you’re trying to go but the Bible has already answered it in that Jesus is the 2nd or Last Adam. There’s some great material for your weekend study.


2,926 posted on 04/23/2022 5:24:27 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: Philsworld

Adam and Eve were not righteous.(Rev19:8)


2,927 posted on 04/23/2022 5:29:01 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Luircin

“You can lead a Phil to Scripture but you can’t make him think.”

It is difficult to get through to someone in a cult that the Bible is supreme to any other person’s words. It almost looks like some have read only the material approved by their cult and never dusted off their Bible to see if what is stated in their writings comports with the Bible.


2,928 posted on 04/23/2022 5:29:35 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: Philsworld

Suppose one of those sinless ones in the otherworld were to sin. Could they claim the blood of Jesus?

Also, is there any death there or not?


2,929 posted on 04/23/2022 5:38:46 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: SouthernClaire

——>God did not create angels in His own image.

How do you know? Regardless, I said CREATED beings. Angels are CREATED beings. Humans are CREATED beings. Angels certainly can sin, and some did. The ones that are left in heaven, obeying God’s law, ARE SINLESS and remain so.

——>“How about other created beings on other planets?” Where? Who? That is so important that God would not have left it out of His word. Get it?

Hebrews 1:
1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the WORLDS;

Hebrews 11:
3Through faith we understand that the WORLDS were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Albert Barnes Commentary on Hebrews 11:3
That the worlds - In Genesis 1:1, it is “the heaven and the earth.” The phrase which the apostle uses denotes a plurality of worlds, and is proof that he supposed there were other worlds besides our earth. How far his knowledge extended on this point, we have no means of ascertaining, but there is no reason to doubt that he regarded the stars as “worlds” in some respects like our own. On the meaning of the Greek word used here, see the notes on Hebrews 1:2. The plural form is used there also, and in both cases, it seems to me, not without design.

Get it?


2,930 posted on 04/23/2022 5:48:59 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

——>Also, is there any death there or not?

If not for sin, Adam and Eve, and their children, would have lived forever, eating from the tree of Life.


2,931 posted on 04/23/2022 5:55:25 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

So, your answer then is “no?” There is no death there and no sin. Did Lucifer ever visit them?


2,932 posted on 04/23/2022 5:57:43 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; SouthernClaire

I don’t like to talk about the garbage, they call the theory of evolution, very much. Let me ask, however, the age old question, that has been asked by millions, is where is the missing link? At what minute, or second, did that ape cease being an ape, and start being a human? When? And if a male and female ape did not suddenly become humans, at exactly the same time, then one was guilty of beastiality. Other than that, discussing evolution to me, is dead and stinking.


2,933 posted on 04/23/2022 5:58:25 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: SouthernClaire

WERE
ADAM
AND
EVE
SINLESS
BEFORE
THEY
SINNED
?

Yes or No?


2,934 posted on 04/23/2022 6:01:28 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Elsie
Seems to me that a believer would have an answer to at least one of them.

They don’t.

2,935 posted on 04/23/2022 6:03:12 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

Good question that never gets answered, Mark. We should be crunching on the bones of dead animals and peoples showing evolutionary changes, but they’re just not there.

The question I have, and which they don’t answer either, is where did the spark of life come from? Life can only come from life.

What gets me is how does say a little amoeba decide something? Anything at all? It would not even have the capacity to know that it lacked anything because there would not have been anything for the poor little thang to compare itself.

BUT, let’s suppose it for the little baby amoeba. “I wish I could see my world!” the little dumb amoeba exclaimed.

Then what?

What the hell did that little amoeba do exactly to start growing things??? What did it know that we don’t?

“Oh, look! It’s a nose! Nooooo. I wanted to see not smell! It’s stanky in here.”

How does it just start growing parts that were previously not in existence? If we’re at the top and we can’t do it, it means that little baby amoeba was smarter than the world combined. That’s kinda depressing, Mark.


2,936 posted on 04/23/2022 6:08:03 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: SouthernClaire

Did Lucifer visit heaven after his fall? (yes) Is there death in heaven? (no)


2,937 posted on 04/23/2022 6:08:32 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

THE
ANSWER
IS
IN
YOUR
QUESTION,
PHIL.

Of course they were sinless before they sinned, hence their need of a Savior.


2,938 posted on 04/23/2022 6:09:10 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: Philsworld

You changed my question, Phil. I didn’t ask if there was death in heaven. I asked you if there was death where these super great people exist.


2,939 posted on 04/23/2022 6:11:22 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: Seven_0

——>Adam and Eve were not righteous.(Rev19:8)

They were before they sinned.


2,940 posted on 04/23/2022 6:11:59 AM PDT by Philsworld
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