I sure don't know any saved believer that believes that phil.
Very creative straw man!
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Posted on 03/06/2022 11:16:06 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
I thought that the two of you would find this beneficial
a. Promises Conditions
(1) John 6:37 Come to Christ
(2) John 10:14-15, 27-28 Know Christ
(3) John 15:1-8 Abide in Christ
(4) John 3:16-21 Believe, come to the light, live the truth
(5) 1 John 1:9 Confess our sins
(6) 1 John 5:10-13 Believe, be “in Christ”
(7) 2 Pet 1:5-11 Sanctification as evidence of salvation
(8) Heb 10:14 “Perfected forever” on condition that we continue in the
relationship with Christ through which we are “being
sanctified”
b. Warnings about possibility of falling.
(1) Ezekiel 18: 21-24 A righteous person who turns away from righteousness will
be punished with the wicked
(2) Matt 18:21-35 Forgiveness can be forfeited
(3) 1 Cor 9:27 Even a minister can fall away and be lost
(4) 1 Cor 10: 1-5, 12 Israelites, though “baptized,” fell away. “Therefore let him
who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.”
(5) Gal 3:1-3; 5:4 “You have fallen from grace.”
(6) Heb 3:12-14 Beware of apostasy through unbelief
(7) Heb 6:4-8 Apostasy crucifies Christ again
(8) Heb 10:26-29, 36-38 Continuing in known sin tramples the Son of God
underfoot; profanes the blood of the
covenant, and insults the Spirit of
grace
(9) 2 Peter 2:20-22 Better not to have known the way of righteousness, than
having known it, to turn from it
(10) Jude 5 Once “saved,” but later “destroyed”
(11) Rev 2:4-5, 25; 3:2-3, Churches threatened with “removal” if they don’t repent
11, 15-16 and change; those who endure to the end will be saved
c. Present assurance, based on the Word and the inner witness of the Holy Spirit.
(1) Rom 8:1, 14-17
(2) Gal 4:6-7
(3) Acts 5:32
(4) 1 John 3:18-22
(5) Luke 23:43
I sure don't know any saved believer that believes that phil.
Very creative straw man!
——>I sure don’t know any saved believer that believes that phil.
Do you know anyone that believes in OSAS? There ya go.
You keep using many words, but so far it doesn’t appear you know their meaning - nor the saving grace of God.
Very sad existence.
——>We’ve only been trying to tell you for literally weeks that we can’t know if *someone else* is saved because only God knows the hearts of all mankind.
How do I know if Ravi, Billy Graham, ANDY WOODS, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, or anyone, initially accepted Christ and was saved by grace, AT THAT MOMENT? By their admission and public confession of their faith. Same as the Corinthians that Paul was speaking to in 1 Corinthians 6:11.
“And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”
Every one of those Corinthians professed faith. They were baptized, performed communion, openly professed their love for Christ (I’m assuming...I don’t know if that’s recorded or not). They did everything to show that they had accepted Christ by faith. They were saved by grace, at that moment. Did Paul ask God to give him the 411 on each individual Corinthian proclaiming the gift of Salvation, “because only God knows the hearts of all mankind”, to make sure they were genuine? Nope. They openly professed it.
OSAS says that the second a person accepts Christ by faith (believes), they are locked in (saved) forever, and NOTHING will ever change that. How many years did Ravi publicly profess to be saved by Grace? Yes, at the moment of his conversion, early in his life, Ravi was saved by Grace. Boatbums, Metmom, and MHGinTN say he was at that time a made man. HE COULDN’T BE TOUCHED. Any sin he committed after that moment would in no way affect his salvation. The bible very clearly says otherwise. It seems that Ravi didn’t love God enough to keep his commandments. Ravi chose poorly.
And, you need to get with your OSAS people and get your stories straight. They say Ravi was OSAS. THEY KNOW HE’S SAVED and will be in heaven. Paul didn’t seem to have any difficulty knowing that those Corinthians were saved by Grace.
The local cultist doesn’t seem to understand that boasting about how perfect he is even turns off the Catholics.
—> How do I know if…
Better question:
Why would an unsaved guy in a cornbroom false religion , know anything about the spiritual condition of the saved??
He simply couldn’t
As to Chuck MIssler, I have absorbed many hours of his teaching. There is little you can accuse that will nullify the spirit filled teaching he has done. You are a Catholic, a Roman Catholic through and through. Memorize these words: "I never knew you". He will reply to your pleading your works with that sentence because you are on the path of prideful assertion, not humble belief. And with that I am through with you. May God have mercy on you in your arrogant unbelief.
What is the doctrine of Balaam?
https://www.gotquestions.org/doctrine-of-Balaam.html
According to 2 Peter 2:15, Balaam’s “way” is a choice to promote falsehood for financial reasons. According to Jude 1:11, Balaam’s “error” was his willingness to accommodate pagan beliefs out of greed. Jude 1:4 also refers to the sin of those “who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality.” One trait of false teachers in the church is that they attempt to turn Christian liberty into a “freedom” to be promiscuous (see Romans 14:1–5).
Putting these ideas together gives a clear view of the doctrine of Balaam. It is the attitude that one can be fully cooperative with the world and still serve God. The doctrine of Balaam teaches compromise, wanting Christians to forget they are called to be separate and holy (Leviticus 20:26; 1 Peter 1:2); the doctrine of Balaam makes believers indistinguishable from the unbelieving world (Matthew 5:13). The doctrine of Balaam is a belief that “a little sin” doesn’t hurt (Galatians 5:9), especially if there’s some financial or personal benefit involved (1 Timothy 6:5). A person following the doctrine of Balaam is willing to compromise his beliefs for the sake of economics. He acts to enable sinful behaviors for personal gain or even participate in them (Romans 1:32).
In practical terms, the teaching or doctrine of Balaam is the view that Christians can—or even should—compromise their convictions for the sake of popularity, money, sexual gratification, or personal gain. It’s the attitude that treats sin as “no big deal.” Christians can’t—and shouldn’t—totally shun the presence of sinners or unbelievers (Luke 7:34; 1 Corinthians 5:9–13), but we are obligated to stand up for truth (Ephesians 4:25), righteousness (Proverbs 23:20; Romans 14:22), and goodness (2 Peter 1:5, Matthew 5:16), whether it’s what others want to hear or not (John 4:16–18; 8:11; Acts 24:24–25).
OSAS = Dead Man Walking
Why do OSAS Nicolaitans, believe in the Doctrine of Balaam?
Nothing, which is why sharp rebuke, then mockery, and then ignoring their attempts to provoke us into giving them dopamine hits is a smart idea.
Can you show me from the bible where God condones large scale rape, adultery, and otherwise, the abusing of women, after OSAS? Go...
Right on bro.
He’s heard the gospel of grace and prefers the cornbroom theology.
His call
BORN AGAIN PASTOR-EVANGELIST RAVI ZACHARIAS....
He claimed to be Born again up until the day he died.
OSAS?
I’m more than happy to claim EGW for the SDA church. You own Ravi, poster boy for OSAS. Try as you have all done to distance yourselves from him, you own it. Yeah, everyone seems to be jumping the Ravi sinking ship these days, even John MacArthur. Maybe if Ravi had started out making corn brooms things may have turned out different? Who’s to say. LOL.
OK Broomer…
Why is everyone jumping off the good ship Lolly Ravi?
I note your implied inane accusations against me and my friends again. I sense another Philtdown incoming.
But I’m still amused at all your pathetic boasting about how perfectly you supposedly keep the Law. And you called me a Pharisee, bahahaha.
YOU had better "memorize" what follows, as to the reason WHY Christ will say those words...
Matthew 7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’
LAWLESSNESS
But that doesn't apply to OSAS, does it? Hmmmm?
We've come full circle!!
——>But I’m still amused at all your pathetic boasting about how perfectly you supposedly keep the Law.
Please point out the posts where I state that.
Would it be located in the same imaginary post that you claimed that I “outright confessed that I ignore Scripture that I don’t like...”
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