God Has Changed Your Diagnosis

01/24/22 | Frank Broom

[BipolarBob]

Thanks for posting.

[Big Red Badger]

Points,
Yes.

[Flaming Conservative]

Amen and Amen! This is what has derisively been called the “name it and claim it” belief, but it is indeed true. Yes, it has been abused by a few unscrupulous proponents, but that does not make it any less true. God’s Word is ALWAYS true, though every man be a liar. God has provided a way to not only deliver us, but to bring glory to Himself. Blessed be the Name of the LORD!

[caww]

Bottom line God will do as he pleases regardless.....name it claim it just busy the minds of those not trusting God as I see it. We can certainly ask but He will always determine the outcome....even when we don’t ask.

[metmom]

Just ask Paul

1 Corinthians 12:7-10 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

My grace is sufficient is not the answer any of us want to hear, but is sometimes the answer we get.

I know far too many really godly people who struggle with health or have died from tragic illness at what we think of as too young an age, for prosperity gospel theology to be proved true.

Not to mention the injustice of blaming the sick person for their being sick. Talk about shooting your wounded.

[metmom]

Remember Abraham and Sarah they had to speak in line with what God said. Remember Joel 3:10 they were told to speak in line with what the word says. And it's important that you speak in line with what the word says and not present circumstances. God used "A father of many nations have I made thee" to get rid of the deadness in his body by his words. God used what the word says that God is our strength to get rid of weakness by their words.

What utter nonsense.

God did what he did for them because He promised He would. There is NOTHING in Scripture that supports your contention that it was their agreement with God that caused their bodies to change.

That is just unmitigated assumption that always results in bad theology.

There’s a world of difference between waiting on faith for something God has clearly spoken to you about and you deciding how God should be acting and the holding Him hostage to that because you have “faith” and think by doing that you can force His hand to move.

Abraham believed God because God told Him. Abraham did not decide for God how He should answer his need for an heir and then demand it of Him.

[caww]

I think they often forget the natural God given flow of life as well. We can ask for things to be removed but he often seems to rather BE with us through it.

I’ve had my share of difficulties in life....enough my son asked why I had not resorted to alcohol or drugs. The answer was clear...it was and remains “The Lord Jesus Christ”.

[caww]

I’ve never ever thought to question if my prayers are “in line” with anything in Gods word. I learned early in my walk he wants us to come just as we are, boldly even.... It’s a relationship after all. I’ve been angry with God because I know he already knows I am so why not be honest with him ...just as I am.

[mad_as_he$$]

I was raised in a very devout Christian home, we are always taught that prayer should be respectful and tempered. At one point in my life I had a great crisis of faith. I wound up talking to my parents next door neighbor who unbeknownst to me was a retired military chaplain; that happened to be Jewish. He echoed your comments not exactly, but in thought and spirit. Being forthright and honest greatly improve my relationship with God, I’m still respectful in my prayers but I’m honest about how I feel.

Thank you for sharing.

[caww]

Yep...just be yourself before Him. Just as you are and what you’re thinking and feeling.

I just talk with God a good part of my day....He’s always present and I love sharing as I would anyone else present in my life. I’m comfortable with God....and when I’m not He knows about it just the same.

[metmom]

I have learned the same thing.

Reading Scripture actually reveals that many godly people did the same thing. Habakkuk comes to mind as one example.

Jonah was pretty mouthy and unfiltered, too.

[jimfr]

Expressing yourself to God, telling Him what He already knows is different than asking/demanding God for something that is against His will

[sauropod]

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[caww]

Well I’ve heard people pray for that which is against his clear teachings plenty of times...(.just as a child would his parent even though he can’t understand the danger of his request.)

Our walk is “By faith believing” and we can trust Him for the steps we take...even if our decision is unknowingly wrong.

[spacejunkie2001]

love it, yes. this is what Andrew Wommack tells us and I stand in agreement with this.

[Frank Broom]

Thank you BipolarBob for taking the time to read this article.

[Frank Broom]

Thank you Big Red Badger for reading this article. Thanks!

[Frank Broom]

Thank you Flaming Conservative for reading this article and for you comment. Thanks!

[Frank Broom]

spacejunkie2001

Thank you spacejunkie2001 for reading this article and your comment. I’m glad you got something out of it.