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[Catholic Caucus] FSSP tells ‘Successor to Peter’ to shove it!
aka Catholic ^ | December 20, 2021 | Louie Verrecchio

Posted on 12/20/2021 8:33:57 PM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] FSSP tells ‘Successor to Peter’ to shove it!

In response to the Congregation for Divine Worship’s December 18th offensive against the one true Roman Rite, the FSSP has issued a statement that perfectly illustrates the cognitive dissonance of those persons who claim that the “conciliar church” is the Holy Roman Catholic Church, and its leader, Jorge Bergoglio, is Holy Father.  

According to the statement – which in addition to being published online was read aloud in FSSP parishes this weekend – insists that the CDW directive “does not directly address” them.

In other words, the FSSP just told the Congregation for Divine Worship and its plump Argentinian overlord, We are above your jurisdiction! So, you can take Traditiones Cojones and your Responsa ad dubia and shove them!  

And this even as they profess “fidelity to the Successor of Peter.”

This invites a serious question: To which Successor of Peter is the FSSP faithful? The answer, at least insofar as the present discussion is concerned, is clear; it’s not the man they call “Pope Francis” but rather “Saint” John Paul the Great Ecumenist! 

The FSSP statement declares, “The former Ecclesia Dei communities [like themselves] possess their own proper law,” namely, “the provisions of the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei of July 2, 1988.”    

Unfortunately for the FSSP and its full-communion con freres, His Holiness Pope Leo XIII made it abundantly clear what fidelity to the Successor to Peter actually entails in cases such as these:

Those who, faced with two differing directives set up some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another, showing disgust for the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them; and in some ways they resemble those who, on receiving a condemnation, would wish to appeal to a future council, or to a Pope who is better informed.

(Apostolic Letter Epistola Tua, AAS 1885, pg. 3)

From practically the very moment that Traditiones Cojones was issued, countless tradservative individuals and groups have been working overtime setting up opposition between the man they presently consider to be the Roman Pontiff and his post-conciliar predecessors, primarily Benedict XVI. In the case under consideration here, we have the FSSP setting up opposition between the “God of Surprises,” Francis, and JPII.

Some “fidelity to the Successor of Peter,” no? This is the gift that is Bergoglio:

Thanks to the likes of Amoris Laetitia, Traditions Cojones, and the present CDW document, those who refuse to acknowledge that the institution presently housed in occupied Rome is but a counterfeit church, and its head is but a poseur, are being forced to demonstrate by their behavior that, when push comes to shove, deep down they know better.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; dictatorpope; intemperatelanguage; mercilesspope; misquote

1 posted on 12/20/2021 8:33:57 PM PST by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 12/20/2021 8:35:33 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

Not knowing what ‘FSSP’ mean, I looked it up and it says it stands for The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, but that dos not spell ‘FSSP’?

What does FSSP stand for?


3 posted on 12/20/2021 8:43:31 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

It comes from the Latin:(Latin: Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri; FSSP)


4 posted on 12/20/2021 8:50:22 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Oh, hey. Thank you ❤️


5 posted on 12/20/2021 8:56:43 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: ebb tide

Forgive me,.I’m somewhat out of the loop..but does this mean the FSSP will ignore Traditionis Custodes and offer the Mass *and sacraments?

I’ll believe their big words when we see it. They always prided themselves on kissing Roman ass,.while.loooking down on priests from the SSPX etc.

So color me skeptical.


6 posted on 12/20/2021 9:37:59 PM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: ebb tide

This article shows growth of FSSP
https://www.gloria.tv/post/HMd6gFzrs7qN1ZGHkoZC317WC
This article provides growth #s of FSSP
https://www.gloria.tv/post/Jp8oCoJcmPwv3TQvG4VXocLLv

This could the tear that splits the ... Frankly, I pray that Pope Frank finds the brain cells to back off.


7 posted on 12/20/2021 10:25:07 PM PST by fastrock ( )
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To: AAABEST

You’re right. The FSSP likely faces a day of reckoning very, very soon. It won’t be enough to hide behind directives of previous popes. On one level, you can’t blame the FSSP for trying the “a deal is a deal” approach. But them problem is that arguing that “a deal is a deal” only works with honorable people, and Bergoglio has proven time and again that he’s utterly dishonorable. Unless a miracle happens, 2022 promises to be the point in which the FSSP and similar fraternities will be de facto dissolved by Bergoglio, and they’ll have to decide whether they consent to their dissolution or go rogue like the SSPX.


8 posted on 12/20/2021 11:50:33 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler

Unfortunately, if the SSPX isn’t careful, they will just become the new FSSP.


9 posted on 12/21/2021 2:44:50 AM PST by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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To: irishjuggler

Frank is the one who is rogue. And the bishops


10 posted on 12/21/2021 5:38:45 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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To: irishjuggler

The FSSP and their associates have been waving people away from the SSPX and questioning their legitimacy for years.

They were the good in God’s eyes - the SSPX was not.

To be honest IR, I no longer GAS about these “approved” groups and their repective snivelers. I’ll just grab some popcorn and watch them deal with legitimacy issues...as hypocrites.


11 posted on 12/21/2021 7:39:22 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: AAABEST

I think you’re right.

When our covid-crazed bishop shut down all public Masses in his archdiocese in 2020, the FSSP closed it’s doors.

The SSPX did not.


12 posted on 12/21/2021 3:34:43 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: piusv
Unfortunately, if the SSPX isn’t careful, they will just become the new FSSP.

How so? The only way Frankie can do anything to them is if he accepts them back into the Church officially, but given what the Church is doing/about to do to FSSP, ICK, and so on, why would the SSPX do that to themselves? As long as they stay independent, the Vatican is powerless against them.
13 posted on 12/25/2021 11:57:10 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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