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[Catholic Caucus] FSSP In Denial, “We Are Not Addressed”
Gloria TV ^ | December 19, 2021 | Gloria TV

Posted on 12/19/2021 4:36:54 PM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] FSSP In Denial, “We Are Not Addressed”

The application document from the Congregation for Liturgy “does not directly address the former Ecclesia Dei communities such as the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter who possess their own proper law”, writes the Fraternity (Fssp.com) in a December 18 statement.

The members of the Fraternity remain committed to their “fidelity to the Successor of Peter” but also to “the faithful observance of the ‘liturgical and disciplinary traditions’ of the Church in accordance with the provisions of the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei of July 2, 1988.”

However, the Successor of Peter has decreed that this 1988 Motu Proprio is abrogated. Further, the Fraternity is dependent on bishops to confer Holy Orders who were just forbidden to do so in the Roman Rite.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; dictatorpope; fssp; mercilesspope

1 posted on 12/19/2021 4:36:54 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 12/19/2021 4:38:24 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

Responses to dubia only apply to those who asked the dubia in the first place. Ironically, their actual existence is dubious.

The FSSP has its own Constitution and they are stucking to that. If Francis wants to clamp down, the dubia are not enough to do it, except to the degree that some bishops will use it as an excuse to do so.


3 posted on 12/19/2021 4:44:30 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: Dr. Sivana

It’s not over. The ecclesia dei societies will be having “apostolic visitations” which has never bode well for traditionalists in francischurch.


4 posted on 12/19/2021 4:49:56 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Dr. Sivana

The bishop of Dijon, France has already done so with the FSSP.


5 posted on 12/19/2021 4:51:25 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide
The bishop of Dijon, France has already done so with the FSSP.

Yes, and also in Guadalajara. In these times, someone said, We need to emphasize the virtues of Trust in God and Gratitude for His many gifts. I have been trying to prioritize those, because there will not be a political solution and I don't have the financial means or other resources to act in a more practical way on a large scale. It is all I can do to provide for my own family's needs, and that comes first.
6 posted on 12/19/2021 5:38:23 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Thankfully, the Cardinal Archbishop of Guadalajar later reversed himself.


7 posted on 12/19/2021 5:42:41 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Dr. Sivana
I believe the bishop of Guadalajara has had a conversion of heart. God does hear prayers; but I fear Bergoglio is not as open to God's will as Francisco Cardinal Robles.

Mexican Cardinal restores rights of Traditional Latin Mass community

8 posted on 12/19/2021 5:50:23 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide
the Cardinal stated that the next step will now be an adequate evaluation on the usefulness of the quasi-parish for the spiritual good of the faithful, as instructed by Pope Francis’ Motu Proprio Traditiones Custodes.

Ebb, I do hope you are right and I am wrong, but I fear the Cardinal is about to make some demands on the FSSP priests which is going to create some hard choices for them. At least in this instance the faithful have an SSPX chapel nearby as a refuge.

9 posted on 12/19/2021 7:47:12 PM PST by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: rmichaelj

“demands on the FSSP priests which is going to create some hard choices for them.”

My cousin’s son is an FSSP priest. Ordained only a few years. I wonder how all this is going to affect him.


10 posted on 12/20/2021 1:43:06 AM PST by MDLION (J"Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: MDLION

My Uncle used to be the North American head guy. I’ll hafta talk to him and see what he says, because “Oh, that doesn’t apply to us” is not going to last long at all.


11 posted on 12/22/2021 9:51:37 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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