Posted on 12/03/2021 9:37:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
“If they were God’s chosen people they’d be Christian.“
Abram was not a Christian.
Neither was Moses.
Neither was David.
and?
And your statement was wrong. Even John The Baptist was not a Christian in the sense of ‘Christian’ started with Peter’s preaching on Pentecost and the Holy Sp[irit coming into the born again spirits of those who believed that day.
Agreed. We’re grafted in.
Only those that follow Jesus are saved. There isn’t a second way.
Or were they? They all believed in the Messiah to come.
It’s the main reason the Left hates Israel, they don’t think of it as a Jewish State, but a concoction of Evangelical Christians.
Why is it this way? Well, because The Word of God separates the spirit and soul, so that He abides in the newborn spirit, forever. That cleansing separation happens, from our temporal perspective, in the instant we believe in Whom God has sent for our deliverance from the sin nature inherited from Adam.
God has Promised in His Word to give ALL believers in whom the Holy Spirit has sealed His Presence that He, God, will give them a new body and soul (behavior mechanism of mind, emotions, and will) when He comes to snatch us out, away from the coming wrath He will pour out on the unbelieving world
God told us, through the letters from Paul inspired by the Holy Spirit in Paul's human spirit, that the One Who is presently restraining the lawless one from taking rule on Earth, that Restrainer will be taken out of the way so the man of sin can be revealed. Since EVERY member of the Body of Christ Believers has the Holy Spirit restrainer working in them, they must be taken out of the way in order to stop/remove the restraining power of The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit LIFE is abiding IN the newborn forever, so it is never removed from the Believers.
The Holy Spirit will still have a ministry on Earth during the tribulation wrath, to remove all who call upon the Lord, taking them to Heaven, but we who have been born again and have the Holy Spirit abiding in our spirit will be removed in the twinkling of an eye, to return to The Father's House where Jesus has prepared a place for our temporary residence before returning to the Earth at the end of the Tribulation as Christ sets up His millennial reign. ['To return to the Father's House refers to returning to where Jesus is now and where the spirits of all those who have died in the Body of Believers are now, with Him; God will bring with Jesus all those who are in spirit with Him, so they can receive their new glorified bodies, real physical bodies, albeit they will be like Jesus, not like their bodies were before they died.]
Galatians 3:26 For through faith you are all children of God[q] in Christ Jesus. 27 [r]For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.[s] 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free person, there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendant, heirs according to the promise
What was Abraham chosen for? To give rise to a chosen nation.
What was the chosen nation of Israel FOR?
Salvation comes from the Jews. The extended Israel is the followers of Jesus
That's not how it all got started. Almighty God called out a man named Abram who came from Ur of the Chaldees, the birthplace of the Israelite and Ishmaelite patriarch Abraham. He was seeking the truth of the one true God. God made an everlasting covenant with Abram, who He now called Abraham, which means “father of many”. God told him that He would make of him a great nation and through him all the nations of the earth will be blessed:
Abraham and Sarah his wife had a son named Isaac. Isaac had a son named Jacob. God called Jacob, "Israel" which means "one who struggles with God". Jacob had 12 sons and it is from these twelve tribes/sons that the Nation of Israel descend. The land of Israel today is only a part of the total promised land God gave to Abraham:
Shouldn’t any person who follows his teachings be one of the chosen people?
The nation of Israel is named after Israel the patriarch. Unfortunately, the people of Israel seemed to also be in a constant struggle with God. Although He graciously took them unto Himself as His chosen people, they repeatedly turned their backs on Him. As a result, in Jeremiah 31:33–34, God promised a new covenant with Israel that would guarantee their obedience:
Israelites who come to God through faith in Christ enter the New Covenant and no longer have to struggle with God. By the grace of God, Gentiles who receive the Messiah of Israel are also included in the New Covenant. In Christ, Jews and Gentiles no longer have to struggle with God or with each other.
In Christ, the struggle is solved, and we have peace, as explained in Ephesians 2:11–22:
“For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
“Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.” (From What does Israel mean in the Bible?)
That promise God made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants? It has never been rescinded. They will one day inherit the land God promised.
Great post. Thanks!
As Galatians 3 tells us, anyone who follows Christ is s descendent of Abraham. The Jews were the chosen nation. But we Christian’s are the expanded Israel, Israel who gave birth to the Christ, the saviour of the world.
The book of Jonah indicates such a view; that God wanted to use his chosen people to reach those who were in danger of his judgment to give them a chance to repent.
Go graft a vine and then write back.
You’re missing some basic facts.
Jews ARE God’s holy and chosen people. He loves them even though they have rejected him. He’s going to open their eyes someday and they will have the chance to “Look on him whom they have pierced” and turn to him. The Christian church is the ‘bride’ of Christ. We are already adopted into the family, but the Jews are the purebloods of God’s heritage. How I wish I had Jewish lineage in me. It would be such an honor to be a “Jewish Christian” it would be the best of all worlds.
Jews ARE God’s holy and chosen people. He loves them even though they have rejected him. He’s going to open their eyes someday and they will have the chance to “Look on him whom they have pierced” and turn to him. The Christian church is the ‘bride’ of Christ. We are already adopted into the family, but the Jews are the purebloods of God’s heritage. How I wish I had Jewish lineage in me. It would be such an honor to be a “Jewish Christian” it would be the best of all worlds.
Gods not done with them yet. And God does the choosing not man.
Really. please explain to me when the Jews possessed all the earthly territory God promised? All Gods promises to the Jews are NOT fulfilled yet. But they will be. To the last dot. God is not a liar
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