Cardinal Cupich Hints at Major Latin Mass Crackdown in Chicago

LifeSite News ^ | 11/9/21 | Raymond Wolfe

[Oystir]

If you are a 60 year old (or younger) and a regular Sunday Mass attendee living in America, there is a very good chance you have never heard a Latin Mass. 60. If 65 you might have the vaguest of recollections of a Latin Mass.

[Campion]

people need to know what is happening in the mass so having it in the local language is good for the congregation

There's such a thing as "catechesis" and also such a thing as a "missal". No reason for anyone except young children to not "know what is happening in the mass".

I'm glad you're listening to Relevant Radio, but they, too, say dumb things from time to time.

[saintgermaine]

My thoughts were not so much about the congregation as I doubt that there are very many interested enough in learning Latin to begin with. But I was thinking about the ones with the intentions of becoming a priest and having to learn Latin.

[Campion]

All Catholic priests (in the western rites) are supposed to learn Latin already, in seminary or before. It's a rule not always observed, but it's a rule nevertheless.

The original language of the vast majority of Catholic theological works is Latin, the authoritative text of everything the Vatican puts out is in Latin, etc.

[pbear8]

My thoughts were not so much about the congregation as I doubt that there are very many interested enough in learning Latin to begin with.

The little kids at our Latin Mass are all able to answer in Latin, also many sing very well in Latin. It is not that hard. Up until 50 years ago, a person was not considered truly educated unless he/she had some Latin.

[gitmo]

Thank you.
I think I’ll find an English translation of the TLM since Latin is Greek to me. (Actually I’d do better with understanding a little greek). That will help me see what you are describing.

Thank you for the explanation.

I have a few catholic in-laws. I’d be interested to hear their thoughts. I suspect my father in law would have been a Latin mass guy. But he graduated from earth several years ago.

[Campion]

Here you go: http://www.extraordinaryform.org/ExtraordinaryFormTextLandscape.pdf.

Their translation is KJV-ish. That's nice but it's basically an affectation; don't read too much into it. ("Thou/thee/thine" is the familiar form of the second person singular in English, similar to the German "du". Latin has no second person singular familiar form, so you can just as easily translate "tu/te" as "thou/thee" or as "you/you".)

IOW, the difference between the New Mass and the Old Mass is NOT that the Old Mass translates into KJV-style English. :-)