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Vatican conference convenes experts to study early Christian history
Catholic News Service ^ | October 26, 2021 | Junno Arocho Esteves

Posted on 10/26/2021 5:37:28 PM PDT by ebb tide

Vatican conference convenes experts to study early Christian history

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — A Vatican conference will gather both Christian and non-Christian historians and experts to delve deep into the history of the church in the first centuries of Christianity.

Speaking to journalists at the Vatican press office Oct. 26, Norbertine Father Bernard Ardura, president of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences, said the conference program was inspired by Pope Francis, who urged him “to work with scholars from all scientific backgrounds, from the most varied cultural sensibilities and from the most diverse historiographical methods.”

“Pope Francis insisted on the need for the committee to promote a fruitful collaboration in the scientific field, not only with Catholic academic institutions, but as well as with all historians and specialists in auxiliary sciences of history who are ready to work together in the search for the truth, taking into account only their scientific expertise,” Father Ardura said.

At the Oct. 27-29 conference, titled “Inquiry into the history of the first centuries of the church,” will bring scholars from across Europe as well as India, Iraq, China and the United States to focus particularly on the first two centuries of Christianity.

The two main historical accounts of the early church have several points of conflict, Father Ardura said. The first account is that of Eusebius of Caesarea, the fourth-century bishop who chronicled the church’s development from the first century to the fourth century.

The Norbertine priest noted, however, that Eusebius’ account of the first-century church was so similar to the Christian church that existed in the fourth century “as if it had always been as he knew it.”

“It is as if we were to say today that the early church was like that of the 21st century. It is obvious, instead, that there has been a development,” Father Ardura said.

The second historical account, he continued, was more in line with Martin Luther’s perspective, which chronicles the “progressive degradation” of the church over the centuries until the Protestant Reformation.

Father Ardura emphasized the importance of the conference in studying the church’s history and searching for truth no matter where it may lead. However, he also noted that the conference is only the beginning.

“We will not arrive at certain conclusions,” Father Ardura said. “We want to give space to researchers who in various disciplines have acquired knowledge” of early Christian history.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; bernardardura
The second historical account, he continued, was more in line with Martin Luther’s perspective, which chronicles the “progressive degradation” of the church over the centuries until the Protestant Reformation.

Bergoglio is not satisfied just changing the Church in the present; he must also rewrite Her history to justify his plans forward.


1 posted on 10/26/2021 5:37:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 10/26/2021 5:38:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide
Rewrite in progress?

Was Jesus trans?

3 posted on 10/26/2021 5:38:27 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: ebb tide

Who is the second historian mentioned? A name anybody knows or respects? Should I assume not, if it is not mentioned right there with Eusebius?

Bergolio likes ambiguity, stirring the pot. This is one thing that scares me about him, as that is bad leadership, and is not of God.


4 posted on 10/26/2021 5:52:57 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ebb tide

There is already a library of books written on this topic, from Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox perspectives. I suspect that this project has a pre-ordained agenda intended to justify moving the church further in the direction that this pope wants to lead it.


5 posted on 10/26/2021 6:13:20 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: married21

It’s probably Martin Luther, himself. Bergoglio is a big fan of Luther.


6 posted on 10/26/2021 6:16:27 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

Don’t like the sounds of this. With this Pope, I don’t expect anything good to come out of this. I’m Catholic, I love history, including early Christian history, and I just don’t feel good vibes out of this.


7 posted on 10/26/2021 6:42:35 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: ebb tide
The Norbertine priest noted, however, that Eusebius’ account of the first-century church was so similar to the Christian church that existed in the fourth century “as if it had always been as he knew it.”

The more I read "the old guys", the more I trust their accounts. Much closer in time to what they're writing about, and they had access to sources now lost.

8 posted on 10/26/2021 7:12:36 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He will swallow up death forever" Isaiah 25)
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To: ebb tide
Martin Luther was a neurotic mess who entered the Monastery to escape abusive parents and teachers.

He was NOT a towering intellect.

He was right to call attention to the abuses going on in the Church, but his rewrite of theology was self-serving.

9 posted on 10/26/2021 8:03:46 PM PDT by G Larry (I speak to be precise and refusing to change doesn't mean you can assign imprecise labels.)
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To: ebb tide

—> The second historical account, he continued, was more in line with Martin Luther’s perspective, which chronicles the “progressive degradation” of the church over the centuries until the Protestant Reformation.

Today, it is worse.

It is also thoroughly gay, which is both known and protected.


10 posted on 10/26/2021 8:53:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So says the prot whose cult allows lesbian “ministers”.


11 posted on 10/26/2021 10:53:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide
Let me save you the trouble, Francis: Motherhood or the Church, by Henri Cardinal de Lubac.
12 posted on 10/27/2021 5:54:58 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: ebb tide

I’m sorry ebb, but apparently you are misinformed - and I’ll try to help.

My church doesn’t allow homosexuals to be in any position of leadership in the church.

If one were discovered, they’d be removed, exercising church discipline as Paul taught Christian churches to do.

Why doesn’t Rome follow Scripture, starting with all the gay leaders in the Vatican??

Why do they allow gay priests, bishops, cardinals, etc??

If they are a Christian church, why are they violating Very Clear Scripture teaching??

Are you supportive of this ebb?


13 posted on 10/27/2021 6:07:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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