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Hitler's likeness of Muslims' & Japanese religion, his, Nazis' strategic use of Christianity
DP ^ | Oct 15, 2021

Posted on 10/17/2021 12:18:42 PM PDT by Conservat1

Reader comment on item: How the West Could Lose in response to reader comment: hitler was very fond of islam

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Translated excerpts from Amir in Israel on Sep 20, 2013, replying to a post by a secularist:

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Hitler was very far from being a devout Christian and his use did not show strong faith in Christianity but opportunism in his name as he knew he could not completely eradicate the deeply rooted Christianity and he tried to "domesticate" it so that the Christian establishment would not interfere and the Vatican would not interfere.

Hitler had some statements that actually praised Islam in which he regretted that the Europeans adopted Christianity and not the Islam in which he saw the "religion of power" as for example quoted in "Inside the Third Reich" by Albert Speer that Hitler told him that Europe's great loss was the loss of the Muslims at the Battle of Tours [the battle in 732 in France in which the Muslims retreated and did not advance further north from Spain across Europe] that otherwise Europe would probably have been Muslim and not Christian.

So too did Hitler show admiration for the fanaticism of the "Japanese religion" and he sighed as to why the peoples of Europe chose not these two religions but Christianity.

Hitler chose to make all sorts of statements that would suit his political intentions.

1. In the agreement with the Vatican and the founding of the "Aryan" streams of Christianity did not come out of piety in Christianity but out of a desire to "domesticate" the ecclesiastical establishment that Hitler knew had power over the masses that was hard to ignore. Public scandals as in protest against the "euthanasia" program for "euthanasia" of the disabled and mental retardation] and what to do that even a dictatorial regime is not immune from an aggressive public protest by Hitler made an alliance with the Vatican and the Catholic Church in Germany out of political motives.

-And by the way also Napoleon Bonaparte who was not a particularly religious man made an alliance with the pope out of political motives knowing the power of the Catholic Church and while he made sure that in his coronation the emperor not the pope would put the crown on his head Because he knew it would raise morale both [Napoleon and Stalin] would therefor considered to be the religious, one would think ??? -.

2. The imprisonment and execution of Max Sievers was not because he was an atheist but because he was a communist and opposed to a regime and Hitler's hatred of communism was not because of his bold atheistic rivalry but because of her declared aspiration for equality and global brotherhood. Atheism did not play a role in the fact that Sievers was a victim of the Nazi regime.

3. The inscription "God with us" in the belt buckles of Wehrmacht soldiers - this is not a renewal of the Nazis but an inscription that already existed in the German army uniform already in World War I under Kaiser Wilhelm II and the Nazis did not abolish it... Hitler made sure not to quarrel with the generals too much even though quite a few of them came from the Prussian "old nobility" who were not so sympathetic to Hitler to say the least but Hitler was dependent on them and so in the army ritualistic traditions and pre-Nazi procedures were respected and although army soldiers swore allegiance to Hitler. It was not obligatory until almost the end of the war! So evidence of what is happening in the Wehrmacht does not always show the Nazi view that as stated the Wehrmacht was granted relative autonomy at least from the regime. The SS for example which was from prominent Nazi establishment as opposed to the regular army its members were required to leave the churches to which they belonged and declare it! ... the issue of post-Nazism's attitude to religion and belief — which was a faction in the Nazi party represented by Heinrich Himmler and Alfred Rosenberg — the Nazi party's ideologue and "intellectual" who advocated neo-paganism and the revival of ancient Norse idolatry.

Himmler was very interested in ancient Nordic e mysticism and dealt with the subject. As for the influence of this faction there is controversy in the study as to how central it was and how Hitler treated the matter and as far as I know it was only a curiosity and I do not know of the flourishing of temples to Thor and Odin throughout Germany in the 1930s and 1940s.

Adolf Eichmann for example stated that he did not believe in Gd when he spoke to the priest who was brought to speak with him before his hanging and execution.

Hans Frank who was executed as a result of the Nuremberg trials became a devout Catholic only after the war and while in prison.

For those interested in expanding on the subject on its various sides - it is highly recommended to read this article tomerpersico.com/2013/04/08/esoteric_anti-christian_nazis , which does not exhaust the whole matter, but as an introduction and window to the subject, it is fascinating.


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam
KEYWORDS: christianity; hansfrank; hitler; islam; maxsievers; mufti; nordicmysticism; paganism

1 posted on 10/17/2021 12:18:42 PM PDT by Conservat1
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To: Conservat1

Likeness? Huh?


2 posted on 10/17/2021 12:37:08 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Conservat1

Hitler and the Nazi higher ups were all occultists. Google “Ariosophy”


3 posted on 10/17/2021 12:56:02 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Conservat1; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; LS; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; ...

Once the Jews were disposed of, devout Christians were the next target. Getting complete control over the youth via relentless indoctrination and separation from the parents would remove that pesky Christian faith in a generation and replaced with a violent expansionist and Satanic de facto Mohammadan/Nordic cult amalgamation as the new state religion with Hitler as its “prophet.”


4 posted on 10/17/2021 1:07:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: Conservat1

The author is illiterate.

Likeness? lol


5 posted on 10/17/2021 1:14:45 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Hitler all but took over the Lutheran Church during his reign. Martin Luther and his anti-Semitism were a huge inspiration for Mein Kamph. It reminds me of what the Democrats and even Pope Francis are doing to the Catholic Church.

See: On the Jews and Their Lies
https://www.amazon.com/The-Jews-and-Their-Lies/dp/B08NXT492R


6 posted on 10/17/2021 1:38:03 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Conservat1

“First the Saturday People, then the Sunday People”.

Had the Nazis won the war, they would have continued with the full-scale Revolution they started. Christians, who didn’t renounce their faith would have ultimately shared the fate of the Jews.


7 posted on 10/17/2021 1:43:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Conservat1
This whole article - from the goofy title to the closing paragraph - was apparently written by a fourth grader or somebody high on drugs.

If this is supposed to be from Daniel Pipes, the man has slipped very badly over the years.

8 posted on 10/17/2021 2:07:40 PM PDT by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: dfwgator

“First the Saturday People, then the Sunday People”.

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9 posted on 10/17/2021 3:04:16 PM PDT by Conservat1
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To: Mariner

Whoever translated that article didn’t do the best job but the overall message is clear.


10 posted on 10/17/2021 3:07:39 PM PDT by Conservat1
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Hitler was not partial to any religion. He used them all. He was not creating a master race of whites, but the the master race that taught the Hindus. Tall, fair skin, blue eyes (whom he believed were Lemurians). That doesn’t make for a good narrative of racism though. He was obsessed with star people and what he perceived as the master/original race.


11 posted on 10/17/2021 3:08:10 PM PDT by M_Continuum
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To: Conservat1

“Islam is the perfect religion for the warrior’’.- Heinrich Himmler.


12 posted on 10/17/2021 10:06:13 PM PDT by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Conservat1

This article is incoherent.


13 posted on 10/17/2021 10:51:43 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox )
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