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Now...I can infer absolutely however that the "Spirit" of Vatican 2 definitely can shape, and embrace our Pope's "theology" as he sees HIS world, through the lens of his third world desires that so fondly has shaped his life, as well.....

And we can call that another rotten fruit from a rotten tree. He's not claiming Trent or the First Vatican Council as forming his rotten papacy, is he, Murph?

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Yeah ... I hear people going on all the time how they were formed by trent...
or shaped by Vat 1 or their Faith is attributed to Chalcedon....

Cmon man...STOP TAKING THE BAIT...

The Papacy is to be Cherished and revered no doubt.... but that doesn't always guarantee the occupant is up to the task- or may even have his own task....

[MurphsLaw]

No we call that - misguided Christianity- plain and simple...

Think of a country- whose constitutional from of government is based on the basic liberty of all humans and their inherited unalienable rights.
Now think of a person who would say that killing the unborn does not violate that constitutional right as the unborn is not a person yet. Thats a gross misrepresentation of principle - borne out of nothing but relativism. No reason of precedent required - no documents just pure ideology.

No while your Pope Francis has on many occasions supported the unborn- though never reaches the antagonism of other ideals he espouses- he's smart enough to realize he cannot present his own ideology without misrepresenting a document as an instrument to legit1mize said ideals.

Nutshell: HE is making his own fruit... in the sacred garden... Woe to those who eat of it some of it...
(ie. Woe to you, Bethsaida!)