Posted on 09/03/2021 11:27:24 AM PDT by Marchmain
Memos posted on bulletin boards from seminary rectors rarely make news anywhere outside the campus, but one put up Aug. 31 from Father Peter Harman to the community at Rome’s Pontifical North American College (NAC) was an exception to the rule. In short, its message was: no more pre-Vatican II Mass here.
The note explains that when Pope Benedict XVI liberalized permission for celebration of the older Mass in 2008, the NAC began offering training for celebrating the so-called Tridentine-rite Mass and slotted in a weekly older Mass on Saturdays. Now that Pope Francis has retracted that permission, however, the NAC will no longer offer the training and the Saturday Mass will be replaced with the new version of the Mass celebrated in Latin.
It’s a small reminder that, against all odds, Pope Francis, after 8 1/2 years on the job, seems destined to leave behind a considerable liturgical legacy.
It’s not what people expected in April 2013, when a Jesuit pope was elected. By reputation, Jesuits are fairly indifferent to the liturgy. As the old joke goes, a Jesuit liturgy is like an airplane landing. No matter how bumpy it may have been, as long as you can walk away safely, it was a success.
Naturally, that’s unfair to all those Jesuits who take worship seriously, not to mention a number of great Jesuit liturgists. Until his death in 2018, for example, American Jesuit Father Robert Taft was probably the English-speaking world’s greatest authority on the liturgies of Eastern Catholicism from his perch at Rome’s Pontifical Oriental Institute.
Still, it’s true that the Jesuits have never prioritized liturgy in the way other orders do. Ignatius never established a tradition of common prayer, wanting Jesuits to be free to pursue the Church’s pastoral needs.
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Wasn't it 2007?
Yes, it was July 7, 2007. Back then, I remember trad messageboards predicting that date with slot machine gifs spinning to 7-7-7.
Were protestants involved in the creation of the new liturgy of the Novus Ordo? Yes.
Max Thurian was brought in by Pope Paul VI to participate in the liturgical reform of the Catholic Mass.
Thurian later said he believed that Protestants could receive Holy Communion along with Roman Catholics.
Michel Viot was a Lutheran brought in to make pro-protestant changes.
At least 4 other protestants were brought in to help Bugnini make pro-protestant changes.
You’re 100% right. The goal absolutely to protestantize the Mass. The Novus Ordo comparison to New Coke has been around for decades, but it really does fit. The market-share leader “C” (Coke/Catholic) thought that it could “win” by copying its competitor “P” (Pepsi/Protestantism). And the stratagem was a massive failure. The difference is that, decades later, the CEO of Coca-Cola isn’t stubborning insisting that New Coke was a wonderful success.
The other part of the joke had some us preferring RC Classic.
Picking nits to get an article humanizing Satan in the Vatican.
Not impressed. How’s the “Fight Global Warming or you’ll go to Hell” thing working out?
Note to the next Pope:
Time to suppress the Jesuit Order again.
The Motu Proprio came about because of someone else, I think there was an article mentioning who. Pope Francis still has responsibility, because he allowed it to go through.
But I think the people who act like this is a special issue for him are being illogical. He may not support the TLM, but if it was a big issue for him, it would have take 8+ years.
The Satan Council, otherwise known as the Second Vatican Council, gave Catholics worldwide an alternative to the traditional Catholic Mass, namely the Protestant-inspired liturgy known as the Novus Ordo. So, all you Mackeral Snappers, it’s either one or the other, take your pick! Hope to see you at an SSPX Latin Mass next Sunday!
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