Posted on 09/01/2021 10:56:15 AM PDT by ebb tide
From an interview granted by Francis to Spanish Catholic radio COPE:
[Q.] I don’t know if Pope Francis is a man who likes to bang his fist on the table. Would it be possible that the last blow on the table has been the pontifical document limiting the celebration of the ‘Tridentine Masses’? And I also ask you to explain to my audience what the ‘Tridentine Mass’ is, what is it about the Tridentine Mass that is not mandatory.
I’m not one to bang on the table, I don’t get it. I’m rather shy. The history of Traditionis custodes is long. When first St. John Paul II—and later Benedict, more clearly with Summorum Pontificum—, gave this possibility of celebrating with the Missal of John XXIII (prior to that of Paul VI, which is post-conciliar) for those who did not feel good with the current liturgy, who had a certain nostalgia... it seemed to me one of the most beautiful and human pastoral things of Benedict XVI, who is a man of exquisite humanity. And so it began. That was the reason. After three years he said that an evaluation had to be made. An evaluation was made, and it seemed that everything was going well. And it was fine. Ten years passed from that evaluation to the present (that is, thirteen years since the promulgation [of Summorum Pontificum]) and last year we saw with those responsible for Worship and for the Doctrine of the Faith that it was appropriate to make another evaluation of all the bishops of the world. And it was done. It lasted the whole year. Then the subject was studied and based on that, the concern that appeared the most was that something that was done to help pastorally those who have lived a previous experience was being transformed into ideology. That is, from a pastoral thing to ideology. So, we had to react with clear norms. Clear norms that put a limit to those who had not lived that experience. Because it seemed to be fashionable in some places that young priests would say, “Oh, no, I want...” and maybe they don’t know Latin, they don’t know what it means. And on the other hand, to support and consolidate Summorum Pontificum. I did more or less the outline, I had it studied and I worked, and I worked a lot, with traditionalist people of good sense. And the result was that pastoral care that must be taken, with some good limits. For example, that the proclamation of the Word be in a language that everyone understands; otherwise it would be like laughing at the Word of God. Little things. But yes, the limit is very clear. After this motu proprio, a priest who wants to celebrate that is not in the same condition as before—that it was for nostalgia, for desire, &c.— and so he has to ask permission from Rome. A kind of permission for bi-ritualism, which is given only by Rome. [Like] a priest who celebrates in the Eastern Rite and the Latin Rite, he is bi-ritual but with the permission of Rome. That is to say, until today, the previous ones continue but a little bit organized. Moreover, asking that there be a priest who is in charge not only of the liturgy but also of the spiritual life of that community. If you read the letter well and read the Decree well, you will see that it is simply a constructive reordering, with pastoral care and avoiding an excess by those who are not...
Ping
Unlike previous popes, everything this esteemed Communist says is “misinterpreted”.
“And on the other hand, to support and consolidate Summorum Pontificum. I did more or less the outline, I had it studied and I worked, and I worked a lot, with traditionalist people of good sense.”
He’s clearly lying. No one could (or did) reasonably interpret Traditionis Custodes or its accompanying letter as “supporting and consolidating” Summorum Pontificum. And the idea that “traditionalist people of good sense” were consulted and green-lit this thing is not credible.
Nonetheless, it’s not necessarily a bad thing that Bergoglio is downplaying the thing. Perhaps he realizes that the overwhelming share of bishops aren’t rushing to implement the damned thing and thus he finds it necessary to save face by pretending that it wasn’t intended as it was intended and doesn’t say what it says.
Bergoglio is the consumate liar.
Is Pope Francis declaring that the traditional Latin rite and the new rite are actually two distinct rites and not just two forms of the same rite as Pope Benedict XVI declared? If so, this has major canonical ramifications.
He sure is; but then again, he's the Dictator Pope, not the good shepherd.
I wouldn’t mind if he did officially create a distinct rite, separate from the Novus Ordo. That would entail creating dioceses and appointing bishops. A simpler solution would be to create personal prelatures or personal ordinariates, like the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter.
But all that presumes good will and an actually pastoral pope.
I strongly suspect that what is being interpreted as “downplaying” the TC, is actually a head-fake on the part of Pope Francis for the purpose of allaying concerns that lay followers of the TLM are obviously having.
I don’t believe for a moment that he’ll be changing direction, but perhaps he believes it will be easier to lead the TLM-laity over the cliff if they believe that he is not trying to destroy the TLM—which he is.
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