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Israeli rabbis send letter to Vatican expressing concern over papal remarks
The Times of Israel ^ | August 25, 2021 | The Times of Israel

Posted on 08/25/2021 6:12:24 PM PDT by ebb tide

Israeli rabbis send letter to Vatican expressing concern over papal remarks

Rabbi Ratzon Arusi, the chair of the Chief Rabbinate’s Commission for Dialogue with the Holy See, has expressed concern over recent remarks by Pope Francis about Jewish law, Reuters report.

According to the report, Arusi sent a letter to the Vatican requesting clarification of comments the pope made to a general audience earlier this month.

On August 11, Francis spoke at the Vatican about the first five books of the Bible, known in Hebrew as the Torah. The pope referenced the biblical story of God giving the Torah to the Jewish people: “God offered them the Torah, the Law, so they could understand his will and live in justice. We have to think that at that time, a Law like this was necessary, it was a tremendous gift that God gave his people.”

Later, however, Francis said: “The Law, however, does not give life, it does not offer the fulfillment of the promise because it is not capable of being able to fulfill it. The Law is a journey, a journey that leads toward an encounter… Those who seek life need to look to the promise and to its fulfillment in Christ.”

Arusi sent a letter on behalf of the Chief Rabbinate to Cardinal Kurt Koch, whose Vatican department includes a commission for religious relations with Jews.

“In his homily, the pope presents the Christian faith as not just superseding the Torah; but asserts that the latter no longer gives life, implying that Jewish religious practice in the present era is rendered obsolete,” Arusi reportedly wrote in the letter. “This is in effect part and parcel of the ‘teaching of contempt’ towards Jews and Judaism that we had thought had been fully repudiated by the Church.”

Rabbi Ratzon Arusi (Yonatan Sindel/Flash90)

The rabbi asked Koch to “convey our distress to Pope Francis,” and requested clarification from the pope to “ensure that any derogatory conclusions drawn from this homily are clearly repudiated,” Reuters reports.

Koch’s office says today that he has received the letter and is “considering it seriously and reflecting on a response.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Judaism; Theology
KEYWORDS: faithlesspontiff; hypocritepope
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The peronist Francis is caught between a rock and a hard place now.

Pope says God's covenant with Jews 'irrevocable' in visit to Rome's synagogue

1 posted on 08/25/2021 6:12:24 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

Ping


2 posted on 08/25/2021 6:13:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The RC does not affirm the Torah. It trusts in its own doctrines over Biblical doctrine.


3 posted on 08/25/2021 6:13:57 PM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, without meaning to. )
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Why would the rabbi even care? Its two different religions. Hopefully the Pope just ignores him.


4 posted on 08/25/2021 6:18:36 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: ebb tide

I’m not Catholic, I actually despise Franky, however this is something he gets right. Any Bible believing Christian would agree. The “Jews Jew” Apostle Paul pretty much says the same thing.


5 posted on 08/25/2021 6:22:14 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: escapefromboston
Hopefully the Pope just ignores him.

The only people Bergoglio ignores is his homosexual prelates (until they've caught public attention).

6 posted on 08/25/2021 6:23:50 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Maybe the rabbi is gay too so he can ignore him like he should.


7 posted on 08/25/2021 6:24:29 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: ebb tide

Yet Francis elevates Islam to be equal with Christianity, and even washes the feet of stinking Muslims, and visits the birthplace of Abraham in Iraq for an “ecumenical event”— and permits the Muslim government to ban Jews from coming!


8 posted on 08/25/2021 6:25:18 PM PDT by montag813
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To: ebb tide
The Pope telling us that Christ and not the law is the way to life & truth is correct! If you have any doubts I suggest you read Paul's epistles.

If salvation could come through the Law, there would be no need for Christ and His sacrifice.

Jesus is not a way, He is the way.

There is no salvation outside Christ. This is true for Jew & Gentile.

9 posted on 08/25/2021 6:30:50 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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I have no doubts.

I believe in “extra Ecclesiam nulla salus”.

I’m just pointing out Bergoglio’s hypocrisy. He has said the Jews don’t need conversion to Christ and Christians should stop trying to convert them because their “covenant” is still valid.

Now he’s saying the opposite.


10 posted on 08/25/2021 6:39:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: escapefromboston

It would be kind of like the pope getting mad if the rabbis say they don’t believe Jesus is the messiah.


11 posted on 08/25/2021 6:41:08 PM PDT by jarwulf
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I think it's semantics.

Rabbi: You know, Elaine, very often we cannot see the forest for the trees.

Elaine: Yeah, I don't know what that means.

Rabbi: Well, for example, say there's a forest, . . .


12 posted on 08/25/2021 6:43:05 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: ebb tide

So does the Pope think it’s time for another genocide? Wouldn’t surprise me, given that he’s been wrong on everything else.


13 posted on 08/25/2021 7:16:47 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Jonty30

Jesus Christ affirmed the Torah, and so does the Church.


14 posted on 08/25/2021 7:27:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (resist the narrative.)
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To: ebb tide

First, thank you for that informative and moving linked article on respect between the two faiths.

Second, the only one to truly benefit from friction between Catholics and Jews is Satan. He is already pleased enough with the descent of America’s faithfulness and doesn’t need further conflicts among us all.


15 posted on 08/25/2021 7:28:50 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: ebb tide

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16 posted on 08/25/2021 7:48:01 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: ebb tide

I even caught flack from a fellow Hebrew and Zionist on Twitter for my statement, repeated here:

Who gives a crap what the Catholic Church thinks about halacha (Jewish law) and why should the Church give a kak in yam (ahem, give a crap) what the rabbinate thinks about its (the Church’s) statements? Utterly useless pursuit.


17 posted on 08/25/2021 7:50:58 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: frank ballenger

Thanks for letting everyone know what God thinks and likes.


18 posted on 08/25/2021 7:51:13 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Larry Lucido

lmao


19 posted on 08/25/2021 7:52:04 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: frank ballenger

Sorry misread your post.

Srsly. My bad.


20 posted on 08/25/2021 7:53:22 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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