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Is the Catholic Church falling apart?
The Spectator ^ | August 13, 2021 | Damian Thompson

Posted on 08/13/2021 8:42:47 AM PDT by ebb tide

Is the Catholic Church falling apart?

In the last episode of Holy Smoke, I discussed Pope Francis's brutal and petty new document which seeks to ban as many Latin Masses as possible. This week we look at the other recent developments, which are arguably just as disturbing: two criminal prosecutions in which close allies of the Pope are accused of a range of hair-raising offences – and the question of how much Francis knew about their activities still hasn't been answered, either by the Vatican or its tame press corps.. Also, I touch on a new explanation for Rome's dreadful pact with China. Did the Pope's Secretary of State sign away the freedom of Chinese Catholics because Beijing was threatening to release data relating to the use of the gay hook-up app Grindr inside the walls of the Vatican? We may never find out. But one day there will be a new pope. Is it too much to hope that the college of cardinals will learn from the disasters of the past eight years?

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischism; homos; liars; thieves
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1 posted on 08/13/2021 8:42:47 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 08/13/2021 8:43:30 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Is the Catholic Church falling apart?

Yes.

3 posted on 08/13/2021 8:44:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: ebb tide
Is it too much to hope that the college of cardinals will learn from the disasters of the past eight years?

Yes.

4 posted on 08/13/2021 8:44:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: ebb tide

No. It fell apart long ago!


5 posted on 08/13/2021 8:44:57 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: ebb tide

“Is it too much to hope...?” Yes. Crazy Frank the First is reported to have stacked the college with clones. In this, he learned from democrat presidents who stack the civil service with their own clones to harass republican successors.


6 posted on 08/13/2021 8:45:24 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: ebb tide

The US Catholic Bishops only care about selling their services to the US feral government.


7 posted on 08/13/2021 8:48:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: ebb tide

Nooooo... This isn’t the first time we have had crap running the church..That’s why Martin Luther left and started his own church...Catholic church is still standing.... Hillare Belloc,French Catholic writer said,I know the church is divine, but for those who don’t,if the church wasn’t divine,the morons running it would have destroyed it years ago....I’m paraphrasing ,but you get the gist of what he said....


8 posted on 08/13/2021 8:49:23 AM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: DPMD

Frankly, Frank is of the Frankfurt School I fear.


9 posted on 08/13/2021 8:50:09 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: ebb tide

Yes it is. The Bishops’ support for critical race theory and structural racism was the last straw for me.

It is run by a bunch of leftist racists who hate themselves and take that hate out on everyone else.


10 posted on 08/13/2021 8:51:57 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: ebb tide

I think the Catholic Church is ripe for a new Reformation.


11 posted on 08/13/2021 8:54:18 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: ebb tide

It has already fallen apart


12 posted on 08/13/2021 8:55:43 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: ebb tide

As the late Pope Benedict once said.....wait, he’s not dead?

Nothing to see here, move along!


13 posted on 08/13/2021 8:56:02 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: ebb tide

It’s been falling apart for nearly 2000 years—and more like 3500 if you want to go back to Moses.

And don’t get me started on the Patriarchs.

At least things went well under David. Isn’t Bathsheba Hot? Absalom, Absalom.


14 posted on 08/13/2021 8:56:26 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: ebb tide

Absolutely NOT!!! The Gates of Hell will NEVER destroy the Church....NEVER.....but we are being led astray by a very bad Pope.


15 posted on 08/13/2021 8:58:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

short answer-—YES!


16 posted on 08/13/2021 8:58:29 AM PDT by bantam
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To: ebb tide
The Church has been under attack since its beginnings. She will stand until the end of time.

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

17 posted on 08/13/2021 9:00:10 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Ann Archy

This.


18 posted on 08/13/2021 9:02:42 AM PDT by fidelis (Defeatism and despair are like poison to men's souls. If you can't be positive, at least be quiet.)
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To: Hambone 1934

Do you really believe that divinity is the reason your church hasn’t collapsed yet? It’s not going anywhere until the Daniel’s 70th week is here. God has His reasons for everything, both good and bad, surviving until the fullness of the Gentiles are complete. Including apostasy, the Antichrist and the False Prophet emerging.


19 posted on 08/13/2021 9:04:11 AM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. OR THE MASK)
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To: Jim Noble

Not falling. It’s being pushed apart by Progressives and Jesuits.
NotablyJack Dorsey is Jesuit educated.
Heterodox and authoritarian simultaneously is a neat trick.


20 posted on 08/13/2021 9:09:46 AM PDT by steve8714 (Evidently the Oxford comma is racist, sexist, or homophobic. You decide which.)
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