On many occasions throughout the history of the Catholic Church, God has provided visible proof of the invisible reality of the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist.
Posted on 08/06/2021 5:49:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
It is an episcopal abuse of power to impose grabbing Communion with the hand under the pretext of Covid-19, Bishop Schneider told Mia Barhouche in a French interview during a recent visit in Lebanon (video below).
Schneider stresses that grabbing is not "safer" than receiving Holy Communion and doesn't protect better against a virus infection, on the contrary. In Kazakhstan, the bishops have only allowed receiving Holy Communion: “No one has been infected until now. Not a single case of a contamination.” Schneider calls this an “empirical demonstration” and an “undeniable fact.”
Forcing the faithful to grab Communion with the hand is a spiritual tragedy, dangerous, minimalist and “very close to desacralisation,” Schneider explains, “We cannot treat our God like this.” He points out that grabbing Communion causes particles of the host to fall on the floor so that they are trampled upon [which IS a desacralisation].
Further, Schneider observed that Covid-19 vaccinations (20:00) are all contaminated with cell-lines from aborted children which will be the base for a horrible foetal industry. Therefore “it is not possible to take this vaccine.” Schneider also noticed that the vaccines are not tested sufficiently and that they can be a health hazard.
Francis' Traditionis custodes (38:00) is for Schneider "tragic," a "wound," "unjust" and so drastic that TC will finally suppress the Roman Mass. He notices that within its first days, some bishops completely banned the Roman Mass in their dioceses. However, Schneider expects the Mass to continue in the catacombs and to be victorious because it is a work of God.
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It could never be proved either way when proximity is enough for transmission.
But if there are zero cases connected to attending Mass in an area with even this high degree of proximity it would seem to demonstrate that the accepted restrictions are an over-reaction.
Query whether, if, heaven forbid, a case of transmission of SARS-CoV-2 virions and the COVID-19 illness from a communicant to a priest, deacon or extraordinary minister is proven through rock-solid contact tracing, does the good Archbishop’s main point (reception of the Holy Sacrament of the Altar on the tongue should never be banned or suspended in favor of reception of same in the hand) lose its force?
Because that is certainly the next shoe to drop.
In addition, in general, one can never prove a negative.
It seems as if the Archbishop’s position may be “grabbing” headlines now, but is cruising for a bruising sometime soon, both from the standpoint if logic, and from a practical standpoint. Someone somewhere WILL refute him. Regardless of whether that person is lying or not, the Archbishop’s argument WILL lose steam from that point forward.
That said, I admire the Archbishop for his stout defense of the practice in question. You, as well as anyone else, know that I am just about as militant as he is about defending it, albeit on different scales and levels of effectiveness based on our vastly different stations in life and spheres of influence.
Anybody who thinks otherwise, is a doubting Thomas.
“It could never be proved either way when proximity is enough for transmission.”
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Please don’t take this the wrong way. I don’t mean to attribute anything negative to you. I am just honestly asking questions.
Do you feel you appreciate the significance certain members of the faithful (especially those who 100% sympathize with the specifically articulated position of the Archbishop in question) attach to this very issue?
Can you say that you know how seriously those members of the faithful take the prospect of being permanently or even temporarily prevented from receiving the Consecrated Host in the manner of their choice based on their most deeply held beliefs and personal conscience?
I would tend to believe that very thing, ET.
I would thrill to see it defined somehow, declared via private revelation, or made manifest by means of a Marian apparition or some other kind of miracle.
You certainly seem firm are you in your stated belief. I admire that.
But a piece of bread can, and that is the matter that’s transubstantiated.
It’s no longer bread. I would have thought you knew better; but sadly I’m not surprised.
See CCC 1376, transubstantiation.
Q. 870. What is the Holy Eucharist?
A. The Holy Eucharist is the Sacrament which contains the body and blood, soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ under the appearances of bread and wine.
Haven’t we all read ‘Jesus, Our Eucharistic Love’ by Fr. Manelli of FMI?
“under the appearances of bread and wine” - DUH.
The bread and wine do not disappear! They are the “species” which become the Body and Blood. What do you think TRANS-SUBSTANCE means?
Apparently I know what it means better than you do.
I'll repeat myself the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ cannot transmit " disease, viruses, influenza, etc."
But why are you even worried? You said you've been watching your Masses on TV.
That is laughable. You’re telling me a germ cannot live on a consecrated host, a microbe cannot float in the wine? No wonder people think Catholics are backward and against science.
Transubstantiation is a miracle, a sacrament, a unique act of God in each instance. It’s not a magic trick, and it does not defy the laws of science.
Are you actually saying God is confined by the laws of science?
Next, you’ll be denying Jesus Christ’s Resurrection and His Ascension into Heaven.
Shameful. You pale in comparison to doubting Thomas.
Never said that, twisting things as usual.
The teaching of the Church speaks for itself. If you cannot understand that, my ramblings will be of no use.
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