[LeonardFMason]

If one believes the Church is the “Bride” of Christ how can they believe HE would allow his Bride to suffer the awfulness of Tribulation?

[BDParrish]

Pre-Trib here.

Hearing Marv Rosenthal preach, you knew he was such a man of God and there are so many Jewish believers who look to him and the mission he founded as their soul winner. I understood perfectly why he had put the pre-Trib rapture in the board SOF for board members and missionaries. When he resigned I appreciated his broken-hearted humility about his change of position. Rennie Showers wrote a book about where he went wrong doctrinally.

Marv R. never said an unkind word about Rennie S. either. It is hard to use the word “heretic” for a man whom I believe will wear his shining crown when I shall be passed over.

Fast Forward to today and now we are on the receiving end of a lot of hostility, most from defectors to New Calvinism who either left the IFB or SBC churches where they were pre-Trib or have hijacked their churches and are changing its doctrine to align with that. None of this is surprising to me, nor shakes my faith.

If Pete is sincerely asking a question, then I think the answer would be no. However it is hard to deny that there is a Dispensationalist backlash coming. If Pete is saying he is in full backlash mode, then try telling him to be nice. Roman do you know him? I don’t.

Please correct me with my thanks!

[Cronos]

If one believes the Church is the “Bride” of Christ how can they believe HE would allow his Bride to suffer the awfulness of Tribulation?

Jesus said

Matthew 5:11 Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you [falsely] because of me.

Acts 9:16 "or I will show him how much he must suffer for My name’s sake.”

Romans 8:17 "17 and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if only we suffer with him so that we may also be glorified with him."

Jesus said you should be prepared to suffer for his sake

What do you think the Christians tortured in the arena under Nero faced? What about the Christians burnt, raped and jailed and executed in Pakistan and Iran and Saudi Arabia feel about your "we'll get magically taken away"

That is arrogance - those people are true to their faith and pampered Christians in the West don't get to say they are not the Bride

[Hootowl]

There are only two direct mentions of the bride of Christ in the NT. Both appear in Revelation and both refer to the New Jerusalem descending from heaven, not the church.