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"And yet the basis for your Faith alone proposition is found no where in Scripture-" I think we have found the heart of your problem!

How many times have the passages from John chapter six been posted - the actual words from Jesus saying believe and be saved - for the truth to get through your Catholic wall? I would post the passages once again if it could break through the wall of lies at the Heart of your religion. But you show with your ignoring the first fifty times the passages have been posted that you refuse truth in favor of the dogma taught to you.

I am sorry your are so dead to the truth,. but the choice has been yours to ignore truth.

John 6:28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.

The spirit in you will not allow the Truth just posted for you to come into your mind unobstructed. Right as you read the verses, a spirit of division and confusion is echoing a 'yes but' to divert your mind away to a different issue, and that is the reality of what is happening in your soul. Is your spirit alive in Christ?

John 6:40 harkens back to what Jesus showed Nicodemus in John 3, regarding the snake on a poole which a Hebrew had only to look upon the brass snake and be cured of snake bite! This explanation had never been offered before! Jesus made the comparison to all/any who look upon and believe will have eternal life.

Now is the time, today is the hour that eternal life begins for any who will believe in whom God has sent for our deliverance from the poison of sin. There are more passages but I believe if you reject the words of Jesus himself you are unable to hear the truth found all over the New Testament messages.

- for the truth to get through your Catholic wall?

Is this the same wall kind of wall that show you countless citations from earlist Church fathers and their writings for Infant Baptism- and its methods that have been used by the Church since the BEGINNING - and you still deny them?
Is this the kind of wall you speak of?

I don't ignore you John 6 verses- they do not prove or validate Faith ALONE… and that was your task - and that's what I have asked from you and you tap dance around and not provided me the clarity of a here-here…

You want John 6 really? John in particular...oooh could be some hard sayinsg... but if that's the "hill" you want to be saved on - lets havaluke.

By your isolating scripture verse logic then- I can have EVERlasting life BY EATING….. I don't have to “believe” anything…

+++ 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever.

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, UNLESS you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

+++ So am I saved by Eucharist ALONE Then? That is ALL is commanded by the Lord…or then do you wonder… Do you have NOT Life in you then if you disbelieve this? as Jesus says. Or do we dismiss the Lord's command here? Or are you suggesting that Christ is contradicting himself here? Or does he mean we have to ‘believe” AND eat his flesh- for everlasting Life? Perhaps… but there is no Sola in that.

Do you know how many ways the Bible says we are saved??? No time for that now… but Faith ALONE does not fit – unless you wish to be accused with denying “the actual words from Jesus saying believe and be saved - for the truth to get through your ~~Catholic~~ DIY religion wall?

I would like your take there for sue… but onto wordsmithing.. and “believe” or “believing” – and just what that means to us… Steve Ray calls “believe” a “pregnant” word. It has many meanings and contexts – especially in scripture. Not enough time to go into that but I came across a verse that has some value for both of us.

+++If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; 38 but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”

Is belief in Christ Works sufficient? Now in another verse Belief is usually mis-translated and should be considered- John 3:36

36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever adisobeys the Son will not see life, but must endure God's wrath.

We can clearly see JOHN has some idea that obedience is a component of “believe”… Belief therefore- clearly- can not be a singular ideal of intellectual acceptance…it must be more…again the pregnant word thing…

Besides … the Bible CLEARLY states “believe” is not a full measure of Faith.. and is clearly insuff. icient as we see it can be demons that “believe” in Christ…..

18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! EVEN the demons believe that—and shudder. 20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]?

Even the demon Christ cleansed of the man believed who Christ was – “And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”

Clearly we agree, demons will not be saved...
I'm out of time… there's much more… let me know your thoughts on this….