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RR ^ | 6/13/21 | Daymond Duck

Posted on 06/13/2021 3:39:10 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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“Forgive us...” conditioned upon how “...we forgive those who sin against us.”

How is it that forgiveness could be both conditional, as this verse describes, and unconditional, as in “whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life”?

Run a topical search on passages about forgiveness, and see if you don’t find that some indicate forgiveness is unconditional, and some link forgiveness to some condition.


21 posted on 06/17/2021 9:20:49 PM PDT by HKMk23 (INADEQUACY: If this keeps up, we may not be able to let you help us anymore.)
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To: HKMk23

Good gracious.


22 posted on 06/17/2021 9:58:28 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

?

To my mere suggestion?
Or to your scholarly results?


23 posted on 06/17/2021 10:20:48 PM PDT by HKMk23 (INADEQUACY: If this keeps up, we may not be able to let you help us anymore.)
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I can’t believe how stubborn you are against the literal words of Scripture. It shocks and depresses me. You are not arguing with me; you are arguing with God.


24 posted on 06/18/2021 7:38:49 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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Really?

How’s THIS for “the literal words of Scripture”; Jesus speaking, no less:

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
Matthew 6:14‭-‬15 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.6.14-15.KJV

Not only does Jesus include the concept of conditional forgiveness in his model prayer (ref. v12), he reiterates it in vv.14 & 15 for emphasis.

Repeatedly Jesus teaches this concept:

“And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.”
Mark 11:25‭-‬26 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mrk.11.25-26.KJV

“Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:”
Luke 6:37 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/luk.6.37.KJV

This isn’t a personal whim of mine; I’m tracking with Jesus, here.

There is an aspect of our forgiveness that we receive that is conditioned upon the forgiveness we extend to others, which would, by the way, include Adam and Eve.


25 posted on 06/18/2021 3:48:16 PM PDT by HKMk23 (INADEQUACY: If this keeps up, we may not be able to let you help us anymore.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Chessboard update, add the Biden admin removing Patriot and Thadd missile defense systems in the Middle East. This will embolden the Russians and Iranians all the more.


26 posted on 06/18/2021 7:57:42 PM PDT by grcuster
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Don’t forget Turkey


27 posted on 06/19/2021 10:28:38 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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