Homer Simpson belongs to the Stonecutters. They look like a fun group. Maybe we should consider them.
Posted on 05/25/2021 3:54:13 PM PDT by patriot torch
Interesting video exposing what freemasonry really is. If you think freemasonry is just an innocent secret society....
Second Voice Over Having once identified a mason immediate steps must be taken to isolate him from the general public. Having accomplished that it is now possible to cure him of these unfortunate masonic tendencies through the use of behavioural psychotherapy. (we see a cartoon city gent locked into a cell) In this treatment the patient is rewarded for the correct response and punished for the wrong one. Let us begin. Would you like to give up being a mason? Think carefully. Think. Think.
Cartoon City Gent No.
A large hammer attacks the city gent.
Voice Over No? That’s wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! No! No! No! Bad! Bad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5olwWtDHEHw
> and you’re probably a lot smarter than George Washington. <
My ex-wife would strongly disagree with that. Anyway, I was just just kidding in my post #14!
I think we’re missing the point here entirely. What is needed is a *new* secret society .. ‘Freep Masons’!
That’s not true at all. Priests have never had a right to heir parishioners’ confidential information. The reason the popes have forbidden joining the lodges is that freemasonry is against the Faith.
Homer Simpson belongs to the Stonecutters. They look like a fun group. Maybe we should consider them.
“Anyway, I was just just kidding in my post #14!”
Well, that’s embarrassing. I just dogged a fellow Freeper for responding seriously to one of my joke comments and now I’ve done the same thing. Sorry about that. Thanks for the civil response.
Missouri Senate Lutheran here. Orthodox Christianity always opposed gnosticism: no secret oaths and rituals; no esoteric knowledge; no elite with private knowledge hidden from either the general public or lower level members of the church. Christianity was and is an open faith. The creeds are publicly stated. All teachings are to be shared openly with all who will listen. The faith is fully consistent with right reason and is to be proclaimed and defended in the public square. The only way to square Masonic practices with Christianity is for all concerned to pretend that it’s all just an elaborate game of make believe and that oaths don’t matter. A lot of people are quite ready to do this.
I have several good friends who are Masons. They are fine fellows and most are at least nominally Christian. (Episcopalian mostly.) When asked, they take the line that Masonry is just a fraternal organization with colorful traditions and costumes, and it is mostly a fellowship that does good works. But they won’t break their vows of secrecy.
> Sorry about that. Thanks for the civil response. <
No worries. It’s kinda my fault for not putting j/k (just kidding) at the end of my post #14.
James 5:
12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Allow a former mason to address the video’s remarks.
Freemasonry is not a religion. It requires a belief in a higher authority. Without such a belief no oath you could take would be binding. They do in fact require you to swear an oath upon initiation.
As a former mason, I parted ways with the craft over my inability to square freemasonry with my faith. I am a Christian and as such, God is the King of my life.
Read the ritual for yourself.
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/masonicritual/index.htm
Pay attention to the prayers and lectures.
Do I believe freemason’s are the scary boogeyman that they are being made out to be, no. Most of the time they had to choose dinner by committee. Do I believe some people who are in power are freemason’s, why of course.
I have met some truly excellent people during my time with freemasonry. I do not think any less of them for their membership. Some I still count as friends today. Each man must choose his path and what he can live with.
Salvation comes through Jesus alone.
I apologize, I never actually bothered to include my comments on the video.
freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity. I suppose it could lead to some worship of lucifer but like all things, the point from a to devil worship is not straight or simple. I do not say this in support of the craft. The things that the video’s author fails to understand is that what he is quoting is out of context. The page he quotes from Morals and Dogma is not what he says it is. It would be my humble opinion that he is sensationalizing this. His expose is nothing new or groundbreaking. I see it as a cry for attention.
I don’t doubt you. And I’m pretty sure my friends who are Masons aren’t involved in Luciferian rituals either. My point was simply that the traditional Catholic prohibition — followed by some protestant groups as well — was rooted in a generic prohibition against membership in secret societies in which members take vows of secrecy before being initiated into hidden mysteries. That runs all the way back to the fight over gnosticism in the early church. The church proclaims its doctrine publicly, to the initiated and uninitiated alike. The rule is generic. The Masons are simply the most prominent modern group affected. If the church bent on a blanket application of the principle, the church would have to pick and choose among all secret societies, saying which are acceptable and which are not. And the church couldn’t do that unless the church leaders were themselves privy to all the secrets and rituals, in which case they would no longer be secret. There’s no way to square that circle. Even if one agrees that the Masons are unobjectionable in practice, the principle of secrecy remains an issue for a church committed to public creeds publicly defended.
Besides, you’re only a 32nd degree Mason. There used to be a very agreeable and friendly panhandler at my local Metro stop — a very clubable guy like most Masons I’ve met — who got carried away talking about the 33 1/3 degree Masons. I don’t think you’re even supposed to know about the 33 1/3 degree until you’re initiated into the 33rd degree, which would mean that you’re still on the outside and in the dark. And there could in theory be inner circles of degrees and mysteries beyond that. Ridiculous, you will say. But how would any of us know? It’s all a secret. I’m just needling you here, but you get the drift. The insistence on open doctrine is an important principle.
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