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[SouthernClaire]

So, you’re saying that Jesus didn’t mean for those words of His to be taken literally?

[Mom MD]

making up things not found in Scripture again I see

[Mom MD]

It’s not the only thing they have turned around

[Mom MD]

It wasn’t cheap. it cost Him everything He had

[Mom MD]

The judgement for believers is for rewards not salvation. After providing our salvation He gives us works to do, gives us the means to do them and then credits our feeble efforts to us. It’s all grace. period

[MHGinTN]

You guys understand it because the Spirit within you opens His truth to you. What the foolish argument over 'dead works' maounts to is ignorance that ONLY the fleshly body dies. There is a spirit and behavior mechanism which does not die at that moment of body death.

Faith in Jesus as your Savior is an act of the will, a part of the soul/behavior mechanism that is attached to the soul AND the spirit. We are born with a spirit that is inactive, dead to righteousness. THAT SPIRIT is what Jesus quickens with His abiding life (1 John 3:9), spiritual life not fleshly life.

Every descendent of Adam has a body, a soul or behavior mechanism, and a spirit. The spirit is likened to a canvas bucket: without fluid / water in the bucket the bucket is flat, non-functioning. IN the empty state the bucket could be said to be dead to its purpose, but it is not non0existent. The spirit of every descendent from Adam will exist eternally, in a state of aliveness with God-Life in the spirit quickening it, or in a state of death, non-functioning, but not non-existent.

Every member of the Body of Christ Believers has, by the Promise of God, God-Life abiding in their born again spirit. Without that Life in their spirit their spirit is subject to the Law of God and will be weighed at The GWTof Judgment. Without God Life in the spirit the spirit will be separated from the Universe of the Saints and our God ... forever. I won't bother to go into the existence of the Lake of Fire here. It is enough hell to know separation from all that Is The Love of God expressed in HIS Creation.

BLT ? The body will return to the 4D atomic dust of which it is made, but the spirit remains in existence, awaiting its fate based upon what choices were made in this bodily life. I cannot touch and handle my soul or spirit and ONLY God can put HIS Life into my spirit, so nothing I can do in the flesh will effect what God-Life does to my spirit, other than mount up a casket of damnation if I reject His Life for me and in my spirit. So be born again in the now, so your spirit is alive forever more in God's Presence.

[GardenerForLife]

"Salvation is not given until the judgement."

Biblical.

When I believed in my heart that Jesus died for my sins, all my sins done and yet to come, MY SIN WAS JUDGed in Christ's work.

Not Biblical.

You're no different than the Catholics. They decided on many doctrines because it sounded good to them. Didn't matter if it was true or not, like praying to Mary. Same thing you're doing.

Matt 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

I have the words left by the prophets, Apostles, and Jesus Christ saying your way will not only not get you into heaven, but your way will get you cast out with prejudice.

You're part of the population seen by Paul in 2 Tim 3. You think you're godly but you're not. You don't know Jesus at all. Just like Paul said, you're ever learning, but you don't actually come to know the truth.

The scriptures aren't in competition with one another. They work in harmony. How can you have "all my sins done and yet to come", when you haven't justified your faith by your works yet? Even Abraham, wasn't called "Friend of God" until after his faith was made perfect by his works. And you're not greater than Abraham.

MY SIN WAS JUDGed in Christ's work

This has no meaning. It's not Biblical. It's part of what Paul described as ever learning, but not true.

Christ paid the demands of justice for sin. He has the ability to pay our debt to justice where we don't have the ability to do so. Thus allowing us to be judged sinless at the judgement. In order for Christ to pay that debt, He has certain requirements that we have to fulfill. Those who follow the path of Jesus, obeying His commandments, and following His instructions, humility, communicating with His Father in His name, doing the works God requires of us, asking to be guided, etc...will have their debt for their sins paid. Those who don't, won't. And they will be cast out.

Your claim of instant salvation is contrary to the instructions of Jesus Christ. It might make you feel good for the moment. But that doesn't make it true.

[MHGinTN]

So I ask again, which cult have you trusted your eternal destiny to. Your assertions are clearly cult-think, believing you can earn eternal life and twisting the Word of God to fit your cult mind. So which cult do you claim?

[GardenerForLife]

The judgement for believers is for rewards not salvation.

Salvation is the reward.

Matt 25
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his aright hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his aright hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

The sheep and the goats are together until the judgement. The only thing that separates them is their works. And Jesus makes that very clear.

Luke 13
26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

People that call Jesus Lord and think they know Him but are cast out anyway. He says this even more forcefully in Matt 7. You don't have salvation until Jesus says you do. Only Jesus can give you salvation, you can't pronounce it upon yourself just because you read a scripture or some preacher said so.

[Mom MD]

You are mixing your scriptures. And yes we can have the assurance of out salvation.

[SouthernClaire]

Yes, we do, Mom MD!

[MHGinTN]

So to which cult do you pledge your allegiance, n00b?

[metmom]

Show me.

[metmom]

Catholics love to cherry pick verses.

You need to read them IN CONTEXT.

Jesus doesn’t go switching subjects in midstream like the Catholic church teaches that He does, this being a perfect example.

His whole delivery here is about religious titles and you expect people to think that in the middle of all that, He’s telling children to not call their male parent “father”.

It’s just downright stupid to interpret it that way and think He bounces all over the place at random.

[MHGinTN]

You could benefit from the following video(s): https://slbc.org/sermon/james-014-faith-without-works-is-dead-pt-3/

[MHGinTN]

https://slbc.org/sermon/james-014-faith-without-works-is-dead-pt-3/

[MurphsLaw]

Your beef is with a very smart- and courageous- Protestant named Bonhoeffer. Which I'm sure he is as well.

Cheap grace means grace sold on the market like cheapjacks' wares. The sacraments, the forgiveness of sin, and the consolations of religion are thrown away at cut prices. Grace is represented as the Church's inexhaustible treasury, from which she showers blessings with generous hands, without asking questions or fixing limits. Grace without price; grace without cost! The essence of grace, we suppose, is that the account has been paid in advance; and, because it has been paid, everything can be had for nothing. Since the cost was infinite, the possibilities of using and spending it are infinite. What would grace be if it were not cheap?...

Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession, absolution without personal confession. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate.

[Texas_Guy]

Where in the bible does it say that every teaching is even found there?

Nowhere.

When did Jesus say “Here, read these books I wrote for y’all explaining everything”

Nowhere.

The bible does say that everything he taught and did couldn’t fit in all the books in all of the sort. He also told his apostles to go and preach.

Listen to a protestant whose religion popped up 1500 years after Christ, and even they can’t agree with each other?!

No. I’ll stick with the original Christians- the Catholic Church.

[Hman528]

I Corinthians 6: 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

When you call on the name of the Lord to save you! You are saved and the Holy Spirit comes and lives inside you of, when saved you become the temple of the living God!
Yes our bodies will still suffer the consequences of the old nature but the real you is a new creature behold all things become new! Our spiritual salvation begins as soon as we repent and call on Jesus not some date down the road- it’s not that hard- the faith of a little child!

[MurphsLaw]

You are oblivious to what was so clear in that I was replying to your absurdity absurdly... re read it slowly.
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You received the explanation you needed. Youn can reject it.... but you can’t deny it.