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Prominent evangelical scholar and a member of Pro-Life Evangelicals for Biden wouldn't publicly support Biden if election were held today
Christian Post ^ | 03/10/2021 | Ryan Foley

Posted on 03/10/2021 7:25:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind

After signing a letter expressing disappointment with the new administration, a pro-life evangelical scholar who voted for President Joe Biden said that while he would vote for Biden again if the 2020 presidential election were held today, he would not make his support public.

Richard Mouw, president emeritus of Fuller Seminary in California and a member of Pro-Life Evangelicals for Biden, spoke to The Christian Post Tuesday, days after his group issued a statement in response to the president's support for a coronavirus relief package that did not include a longstanding provision that prevents the use of taxpayer dollars to fund abortions.

"We are very disappointed about the COVID-19 relief package's exclusion of the Hyde Amendment, a longstanding, bipartisan policy," they wrote. "We're even more upset that the Biden administration is supporting this bill."

As a result of Biden's support for the bill, the group contended that they feel "used and betrayed."

Mouw told CP that he and other members of Pro-Life Evangelicals for Biden group knew that Biden had been "shifting" his position on the Hyde Amendment when they released a statement in support of Biden's candidacy last October, one month before the 2020 presidential election.

He maintained that conversations they had with campaign officials who now help the administration with faith outreach were reassuring.

"We made ... clear that we would offer support with the understanding that they would urge the White House to have serious conversations with Catholics and evangelicals who are right-to-life people," he recalled. "The problem is that we haven't had those conversations, and leaving the Hyde Amendment out of this particular package, this latest COVID package, is a signal that ... there really ... is no room for that kind of conversation."

Mouw confirmed that an official from the Biden administration reached out to him on Monday.

"We're going to have a meeting later this week," he said.

Mouw and Ronald Sider, another member of Pro-Life Evangelicals for Biden, will sit down with two members of the White House faith outreach office to address their concerns.

When asked if he would vote for Biden again and issue a statement in support of his candidacy if the 2020 presidential election was still forthcoming and he knew that Biden would support a coronavirus relief bill that excluded Hyde Amendment protections, Mouw responded that he would "vote the same way" while adding, "I would not give my public support."

Mouw indicated that while he disagrees with Biden's position on abortion, there are other areas where he has found common ground with the new administration, specifically on the issues of global warming and immigration.

Acknowledging that he received "a lot of angry messages from right-to-life people," some of whom called him "naive" due to his support for Biden and subsequent feelings of betrayal, Mouw still defended the object of his previous remarks in support of Biden. He said they would be necessary to provide reassurance to the "many younger evangelicals who are not happy about ... the way in which their parents and grandparents have endorsed and defended the Trump administration."

"We ... don't want to lose them to evangelicalism because of what is perceived as a mean-spirited, highly partisan commitment on the part of the older generation of evangelicals who voted 81% ... in the presidential election before this last one for Mr. Trump," he said.

"We thought it was important to hold up the right to life position and at the same time, say it's OK to be concerned about a broader range of issues such as global warming and children at the border separated from their parents and those kinds of questions. And so, we wanted to use our own access through the Biden campaign people to at least get them to stay in conversation with people like us."

In addition to explaining that he was "less optimistic" about the possibility of Biden and the Democratic Party building a "bigger tent" to accommodate pro-lifers, Mouw expressed concern about the president's support for another major legislative initiative: The Equality Act.

According to Mouw, the legislation puts "the rights of Christian institutions to preserve commitments to traditional biblical teaching regarding sexuality without being penalized in terms of federal grants, federal loans for students" in jeopardy.

"A lot of Christian colleges and universities are well over 50% dependent in their tuition income on students getting federal loans," the Fuller Seminary president emeritus added.

Mouw warned that making "the sexuality issue" an eligibility requirement for "receiving students with federal loans" would deal a "huge blow" to faith-based schools.

Leading up to the 2020 presidential election, Biden had vowed to push for the Equality Act's passage within his first 100 days in office. Biden indicated that he would work to codify Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide, into law.

Biden's documented public support for policies widely opposed by evangelicals has led some conservatives, like former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis, to conclude that "'Evangelicals' for Biden are getting exactly what they voted for."


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: biden; evangelical; prolife; richardmouw
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To: BenLurkin

I concur; Biden never hid his views on free abortion. Its the phonies like this guy who pretend to be evangelicals, help get Biden elected, then try to play the side they supposedly came from. It won’t work; like the Lincoln Project, you’ve done your dirty work, and no one on any side wants you.


21 posted on 03/10/2021 7:41:19 AM PST by laconic
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, thanks a pantload (in my Neal Boortz voice).


22 posted on 03/10/2021 7:42:45 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SeekAndFind

These idiots aren’t even useful.


23 posted on 03/10/2021 7:43:59 AM PST by Iowa Slim
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To: SeekAndFind

“The problem is that we haven’t had those conversations, and leaving the Hyde Amendment out of this particular package, this latest COVID package, is a signal that ... there really ... is no room for that kind of conversation.”

Looks like yet ANOTHER leader from our side is now ‘discovering’ that the Democrats are not his ‘friends across the aisle anymore’.

But hard to beat up on him alone - after all, Ted Cruz actually thought Hillary would make a better president, at least during the 2016 Convention.


24 posted on 03/10/2021 7:49:20 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: SeekAndFind

Really?? What did “pro life evangelicals” expect??


25 posted on 03/10/2021 7:50:43 AM PST by pnz1 ("These people have gone stone-cold crazy")
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To: freedomlover

“Fool”

OLD fool, who should know better.


26 posted on 03/10/2021 7:53:50 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: circlecity

“These aren’t evangelicals, they are hard core leftists. They are now just trying to snooker more money out of Christians.”

I think that’s part of the reason our side is saying “What the hell is going on” when we see virtually every group that sided with us on freedom, instead turning Fascist Democrat.

Bottom line is that it all started in the Universities. The Communists there would get students together and organize them (called ‘teach-ins’ at the time, I was there). Obviously they understood the Christianity was a huge threat to them, so they found students who were forced to study the bible (by their oppressive parents) and had them work their way up in leadership in organizations like the Southern Baptists, and then when the time was right, they would strike.

Basically like a neutron bomb hitting...which is why we’re wondering what the hell is going on.


27 posted on 03/10/2021 7:54:49 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s a sick freak in an old body.


28 posted on 03/10/2021 7:58:01 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Evangelicals” need to go the way of the dinosaurs. Presidential elections would probably be a lot better if republicant’s didn’t have to kowtow to them.


29 posted on 03/10/2021 7:58:03 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: freedomlover

Fool


In the truest Biblical sense, he truly is, IMO.


30 posted on 03/10/2021 8:00:34 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I never knew you“


31 posted on 03/10/2021 8:00:36 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: SeekAndFind

Richard J. Mouw, former president of Fuller Theological Seminary and Member of Pro-Life Evangelicals for Biden


How can one be pro-life and support a man who advocates the the government-sanctioned killing of the most helpless among us; the child still in the womb? I truly do not understand.

Does he not, do any who advocate for abortion not understand that it is God’s absolute right alone to take a life? Do they not understand the nature of God?


32 posted on 03/10/2021 8:06:03 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: SeekAndFind

Richard Mouw is a fool. We know nothing new now that we didn’t already know a year ago.


33 posted on 03/10/2021 8:07:50 AM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

I used it in that specific context . . .


34 posted on 03/10/2021 8:12:07 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: SeekAndFind

Legacy of a useful idiot.


35 posted on 03/10/2021 8:12:16 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: SeekAndFind

These people are so naive & clueless. They watch CNN.


36 posted on 03/10/2021 8:13:03 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta ( )
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

RE: How can one be pro-life and support a man who advocates the the government-sanctioned killing of the most helpless among us; the child still in the womb? I truly do not understand.

Richard Mouw like John Piper an Ronald Sider, are Evangelicals who have what I would call HIERARCHY OF VALUES.

For them, they equate Jesus’ command to help the less fortunate, the poor, the homeless, the hungry among us to GOVERNMENT AID because they think this is the most direct and effective way of helping the poor.

Hence, in their hierarchy of values, anyone who promises this and puts on a public showing that he “cares” for the poor is more important than the issue of abortion.

They see Trump and his combative tweets as uncouth, rude and undignified and they also believe what the mainstream press propagandizes about Trump’s support for racists and white supremacists and the Republicans wanting to destroy healthcare for those who cannot afford the cost.

I know because I have spoken to many such church going people in New York, where I live.


37 posted on 03/10/2021 8:18:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
We feel "used and betrayed."......Richard J. Mouw, former president of Fuller Theological Seminary and Member of Pro-Life Evangelicals for Biden


38 posted on 03/10/2021 8:22:36 AM PST by caww ("Politics is not a game, but a serious business" - Churchill)
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To: mykroar
So he's still a putz.

And an idiot.

39 posted on 03/10/2021 8:24:06 AM PST by Allegra
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect “bought”. Now that he has rendered his service he is trying to return to the fold.


40 posted on 03/10/2021 8:32:53 AM PST by marron
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