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To: SeekAndFind

You don’t leave Jesus because of Judas.


2 posted on 03/01/2021 7:38:12 AM PST by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: Andyman
You don’t leave Jesus because of Judas.

That is an excellent response!

3 posted on 03/01/2021 7:41:26 AM PST by GreenHornet
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Exactly. How was he a “church” leader? He was an independent and headed a para-church organization. I am skeptical about all such organizations because they typically are not accountable to anyone or anything beyond themselves. Often, one or two people are in charge, and nobody questions their authority.

We are members of a Reformed Presbyterian church where the ruling body consists of ordained elders. If you have a problem that is not resolved at the local church level with the body of elders, you can appeal to presbytery, which is the body of elders that oversees churches within its region. If you still are not satisfied, you can then appeal to the General Assembly which oversees the entire denomination.

It is like our republican form of government, and even though it is far from perfect (just like our messed up government), there are ways to hold those in positions of authority accountable for their actions. Nothing is perfect in this life, and every organization consists of sinners, but having a leader who does not have an overseer is a problem.

It is always dangerous to attach too much importance to one individual, no matter how wonderful he seems to be.


28 posted on 03/01/2021 8:24:33 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (In a free world, nobody is equal. In an equal world, nobody is free. )
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To: Andyman

Excellent response, will quote in the future.


43 posted on 03/01/2021 10:27:29 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Andyman
“Your salvation and discipleship are not dependent on whether the preacher from whom you heard the gospel is genuine,” Moore writes, “but rather on whether the gospel itself is genuine....It is.”

As Psalms 118:8-9 tells us..."It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes." Jesus said...”I” am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”....not a Pastor, not a Priest not a Church leader.

79 posted on 06/10/2021 6:22:04 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Andyman
“Your salvation and discipleship are not dependent on whether the preacher from whom you heard the gospel is genuine,” Moore writes, “but rather on whether the gospel itself is genuine....It is.”

As Psalms 118:8-9 tells us..."It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes." Jesus said...”I” am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”....not a Pastor, not a Priest not a Church leader.

80 posted on 06/10/2021 6:22:04 PM PDT by caww ( )
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