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Slaughtering Christ
1/20/21 | self

Posted on 01/20/2021 5:18:18 PM PST by justme4now

Sometimes I worry that by questioning the way God took certain actions, the way he did according to scripture .. I worry that I may be on the thin line between wanting answers to these questions or actual blasphemy!?

One of my most nagging questions and one that seems to have no rational (or scriptural) explanation is "why did Jesus have to be tortured and slaughtered like he was?"

Why the carrying and dragging of the heavy beams of the cross?

That effort was so cruel that he fell many times on the way to where he would be impaled!

Why the spikes through hands and feet?

Why the vinegar? (offered for his thirst!)

Why the piercing by the sword? (I know it was to see if he was really dead. By that action it seems that it was done not knowing or caring if he was actually dead!)

Sure, I know that there are some who will tell us that it was the fulfillment of scriptural prophesy!

But that doesn't really answer my real question!

If God can do ANYTHING .. why couldn't he have made it somewhat easier on his son?

Seriously, God is the one demanding a sacrifice of blood for mankind's redemption but I don't see anywhere the NEED for torture?

Heck the old testament has sacrifices of lambs that foretold the coming sacrifice of Jesus. (the real lamb of God)

Nowhere do I see where any of the four legged animals were tortured before being sacrificed?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: cross; god; jesus; torture
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1 posted on 01/20/2021 5:18:18 PM PST by justme4now
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To: justme4now

Bkmk


2 posted on 01/20/2021 5:25:35 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: justme4now
Not an answer, but interesting anyhow https://www.christianity.com/jesus/is-jesus-god/old-testament-prophecies/what-s-important-about-jesus-not-breaking-any-bones.html
3 posted on 01/20/2021 5:30:17 PM PST by j_guru
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To: justme4now

If you want to know the horrific penalty of sin as judged by the wrath of a Holy God, look at Christ’s passion.


4 posted on 01/20/2021 5:30:26 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: justme4now

I believe it had to be to emphasize the deadly nature of sin. Giving him a cyanide pill wouldn’t quite do it.


5 posted on 01/20/2021 5:31:29 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: j_guru

Well that’s what I get for doing html on my phone


6 posted on 01/20/2021 5:31:46 PM PST by j_guru
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To: justme4now
If God can do ANYTHING ..

He cannot. That is a logical fallacy.

He cannot sin, He cannot contradict His nature, He cannot be less just.

And of course, He cannot make a rock so heavy He cannot lift it.

7 posted on 01/20/2021 5:32:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: RoosterRedux

If the answers aren’t in the scriptures, I’m open to speculations. 8)


8 posted on 01/20/2021 5:32:06 PM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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It had to be like this so future generations would notice.

If Herod had just cut his throat, there would be no New Testement.


9 posted on 01/20/2021 5:33:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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1. That wasn’t special. It was Roman SOP.
2. Jesus died for Hitler and Caligula (if they had repented). Somehow, lethal injection does not seem adequate to that goal.


10 posted on 01/20/2021 5:33:49 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (White Privilege does NOT begin with Being White but when you ACT "WHITE"! So, -- ACT "WHITE"!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

He could do any of those things if he chose to do them.

Being righteous and holy he chooses not to do them.
(After all ... who could stop him?) lol


11 posted on 01/20/2021 5:35:07 PM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: justme4now

Thx. I’m going to think and pray on it overnight...and see what comes up.:-)


12 posted on 01/20/2021 5:37:51 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: justme4now; SaveFerris; metmom; SkyPilot

Well this should be an interesting thread.


13 posted on 01/20/2021 5:48:44 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It could be but I have another God question that could really get interesting!

That question deals more in the science of God and the universe!


14 posted on 01/20/2021 5:52:24 PM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

And God cannot lie.

Honestly, considering Jesus took on Himself the sin of the entire world for all time, I’m staggered that God considered what Jesus went through to be enough to pay for all that evil.

When I see the evil that is running rampant through our world just these days in this country, it’s breathtaking.

And I know far worse evil has been perpetrated by human beings against others than the little we are seeing.

How the passion of Jesus was enough to cover all that sin is beyond me.


15 posted on 01/20/2021 5:54:31 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: justme4now

No, God can never act contrary to His nature

He is always just, and never unjust.
Always righteous. He cannot sin.


16 posted on 01/20/2021 5:54:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: justme4now

I like it how skeptics posit questions like yours.

Let’s see it?


17 posted on 01/20/2021 5:56:38 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t believe that there is a real answer?

It all goes back to the “God can do anything” meme!

For instance, some have said that it was done so future generations would remember!?

Heck, God could accomplish that without all of the fuss! 8-(


18 posted on 01/20/2021 5:58:20 PM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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Suffering is the unit by which we can measure love.


19 posted on 01/20/2021 6:00:22 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

That will be another thread for tomorrow.

It is much more involved and thought provoking.
(And a lot more fun!)

I’m not really a skeptic, I just question everything which I don’t understand.


20 posted on 01/20/2021 6:03:16 PM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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